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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby ShenGCH » Tue May 24, 2016 11:08 pm

BlueMue wrote: Let's just pretend this thread never happened and forget about it. Really not worth thinking about it any longer.

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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby richterw » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:35 am

I'm curious about this "fight every time you want" thing. i'm going to try and see if this realy works.
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby ShenGCH » Wed Jun 01, 2016 4:04 am

richterw wrote: I'm curious about this "fight every time you want" thing. i'm going to try and see if this realy works.

You'll most likely be wasting your time on the quest for these free battles of legend, but at least you'll still be playing Shenmue ;-)
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Kiske » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:41 am

Doesn't the bottom scene look similar to what described by OP?

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Note: Those screenshots come from a preview of Shenmue in April 1999 "Games Master" magazine.
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby BlueMue » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:09 am

I already mentioned the beta screenshots earlier in this topic. This magazine shows even more of them in Yamanose though.

BlueMue wrote: I get the feeling that you've looked way to long at these Beta screenshots...

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If a fight around that area still exists that would be an amazing find indeed.
I hope you don't just hype people up with fake rumors here.

It seems Ryo was even able to fight while on the stairs. That's way different from the final game. But this is a more simply designed Yamanose (wich can still be found in the files of the debug beta).

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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Kiske » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:44 pm

BlueMue wrote: I already mentioned the beta screenshots earlier in this topic. This magazine shows even more of them in Yamanose though.

BlueMue wrote: I get the feeling that you've looked way to long at these Beta screenshots...

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If a fight around that area still exists that would be an amazing find indeed.
I hope you don't just hype people up with fake rumors here.

It seems Ryo was even able to fight while on the stairs. That's way different from the final game. But this is a more simply designed Yamanose (wich can still be found in the files of the debug beta).


Getting old is a bad thing :lol:

I missed/forgot your post!

Are they any footage (from beta version) of fights on the stairs?
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Mr357 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:50 pm

Maybe we can finally get an answer of Zoltor since he started posting again.
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby ShenGCH » Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:11 am

Mr357 wrote: Maybe we can finally get an answer of Zoltor since he started posting again.

Hopefully. I brought it up after he started posting again, and he addressed it here: http://www.shenmuedojo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=50200#p1136692
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby BlueMue » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:39 am

Kiske wrote:Are they any footage (from beta version) of fights on the stairs?

I don't recall ever seeing that in motion. Not even in the Premiere video and that has a ton of Beta footage.
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Hyo Razuki » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:11 am

Well, nowadays this kind of thing is pretty simple to solve. There's actually nothing to discuss here. Until Zoltor brings video footage evidence, everything he says about those fights is irrelevant. Video or it didn't happen.

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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Centrale » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:46 am

It's already quite a pivot from "it's shocking that everybody doesn't know about this" to "it could be really difficult/take a long time to trigger it."

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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby south carmain » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:05 pm

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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Zoltor » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:51 pm

Centrale wrote: It's already quite a pivot from "it's shocking that everybody doesn't know about this" to "it could be really difficult/take a long time to trigger it."



Well I never even knew this was some kind of secret, so naturally once I found out that it is(a 16 year secret) some unknown thing, ofcouse my thinking on the ease of triggering it, is gonna change.

You know how crafty Yu is, hell there's a reported bug in Shenmue 1(revolving around a phone call to Nozomi), that can't always be reproduced, never mind all the insanity with Shenmue 2(if there wasn't a official walkthrough released, the whole Fang Mei Birthday thing, probally still wouldn't be known, nevermind all the rare chat sequences, and such buried in the most overlooked timespans/places. Also wasn't the trigger for the guilin secret fail state, just figured out in 2015 for crying out loud).
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby south carmain » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:02 am

You said it can be done every day at dusk by talking to them though so that wouldn't make it exactly a rarity or hard to trigger.
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Re: It's shocking how many people don't know you can fight..

Postby Zoltor » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:17 am

south carmain wrote: You said it can be done every day at dusk by talking to them though so that wouldn't make it exactly a rarity or hard to trigger.



Yes I did, and that's true, once It's unlocked, it can be done every day like clockwork(except the last week leading upto the bad ending).

In my last post, when I'm talking about triggering it, I'm not talking about a one time event or something that needs a repeatable trigger activated every day.

Whatever triggers are required, only need to be triggered once, once the battle is unlocked, all you have to do, is talk to the NPC to get the encounter.
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