Shenmue Dojo

killthesagabeforeitkillsu wrote: A bit, yes. In a perfect world the Yakuza team would drop by YS net studios and do all the 3D model work for free.

I get the sense that they would have a 4K Dreamcast model Ryo done in like 10 minutes. But the Ryo we last seen is looking better. Truthfully I expect even more changes when we see the actual game in motion.

darksniper wrote:

killthesagabeforeitkillsu wrote: A bit, yes. In a perfect world the Yakuza team would drop by YS net studios and do all the 3D model work for free.

I get the sense that they would have a 4K Dreamcast model Ryo done in like 10 minutes. But the Ryo we last seen is looking better. Truthfully I expect even more changes when we see the actual game in motion.

Pretty much. They are very efficient in 3D model work.

I agree. The new footage looks a lot better, mostly because of context sensitive facial expressions.

Honestly, I prefer more stylized video games over hyper realistic ones.

You can get away with more expression and character. Shenmue straddles this a bit, and I honestly wish the game looked more like the concept art sometimes....but yeah.I'm okay with the more cartoony look it has going currently.

Though I'm still kinda not digging Ryo's squished potatoe face.

For me, the ideal is shit like team fortress or sunset overdrive. Just lots of character and expression.

The art style hasn't really changed from the first two games except this guy has grown a mullet and now appears to be covered in a layer of grease.

This desire to have a photorealistic Shenmue with Yakuza-like realistic character models looks terrible and pretty misguided to me. Shenmue was made in an era when graphics were getting more advanced, but they still had a definite stylized look in them, and CG character art still had its own flavour. There's still a place for that, i'm already sick and tired of all the unnecessary photorealism, i don't want Ryo and Shenhua to look like amateur actors wearing halloween costumes in a spoof movie like they do in the Resident Evil 2 Remake, or in DMCV, for example.

I actually think the biggest thing to get used to with the S3 screens are that its bright and almost over bloomed.

If you go look at (especially S1) the old games theres a weathered sort of greyness to them. Some of S2 was brighter (especially the harbour in SII) but Kowloon and even Guilin had a more natural grey sky look to them.

The Character stylisation is pretty much spot on for me, I just think the modern bloom effect graphics take some getting used to and thats what makes it look so un-shenmuey.

The reason why they look cartoonist or oily (as somebody has stated before) is because the team seems to follow the rubber styled graphics that Street Fighter V has. Both games use Unreal Engine 4:

However, Shenmue 1 and 2 were not cartoonish. I think the designers tried to create realistic graphics (for example, the skin tones and color tones of the characters and objects) but creating characters whose physical features are not proportionate. I would say that they created realistic characters that simply are very ugly.

The image used before by somebody else illustrates very well what I am saying:

When other characters in Shenmue III look like this:







- singling out Mr Muscles as the definitive representation of Shenmue III's in-progress graphical design is a bit silly. These characters don't look like they're from Street Fighter 5, and I'd argue neither does Mr Muscles, really. He may be a big ugly bastard, but that's by design.



Ren's gang in Shenmue II, by comparison:



Even if AM2 were pushing for the most realistic graphics the world had ever seen with the originals, the manga-inspired design still runs through the characters pretty heavily, and I'd say that's more recognisable now that realism in graphics has moved on so considerably.

The new Kickstarter update is out and the game is looking great!

I wouldn't say that the graphics are cartoony, the graphics were always a bit cartoonish, it is just bad for the current year.

One of the reasons I got into Shenmue was because I was always a computer nerd and I liked how much the game pushed hardware to its limits. Shenmue III has the graphics of your typical korean MMO or phone game. It isn't impressive, and sure as shit isn't hardware pushing. A good example of a modern stylized (actually more of an idealized reality) asian game would be FFXV. I was actually genuinely amazed when I realized that his opening cutsence was being rendered in real time:



That is what I am expecting of Shenmue III. The current graphics that they shown to the public is very disappointing, to say the least.

FF 15 had a bigger Budget. But this looks great and Uncharted 4 too. I like the graphic-style in Shenmue III. The clouds, smoke-animation from the survey-video for example. It doesn't look artificial it looks real. I looking forward to the day where Shenmue III will finally fully revealed.

Suzuki said we shouldn't expect AAA graphics. This game doesn't have a big budget so they can't aim for last gen graphics.

I was very impressed when Shenmue 1 came out but, in my opinion, Shenmue 3 graphics are very nice, with lots of details and it has that Sega old times feeling, handcrafted.
I'm fully satisfied with current graphics and I'm sure when they show a real trailer we are going to be blown away.