Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Sounds like you just sucked at it. Anyway, what do you mean by "today's standards"? If we're talking about quality, then today's games aren't anything amazing. There aren't any action-adventure type games that have better combat than the Shenmue series and even if there are, Shenmue is certainly one of the best in this aspect. So yeah, I don't get the "isn't aged well" thing you said. It couldn't be further from the truth!
Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Sounds like you just sucked at it. Anyway, what do you mean by "today's standards"? If we're talking about quality, then today's games aren't anything amazing. There aren't any action-adventure type games that have better combat than the Shenmue series and even if there are, Shenmue is certainly one of the best in this aspect. So yeah, I don't get the "isn't aged well" thing you said. It couldn't be further from the truth!
i don't want to offend anyone,i like the shenmue combat system,i like complex fightning game(always preferred street fighter rather than virtua fighte).In my opinion is a little weird for today,it needs a little tweak to collision,camera and group fight,not simplified but sharpened
Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Sounds like you just sucked at it. Anyway, what do you mean by "today's standards"? If we're talking about quality, then today's games aren't anything amazing. There aren't any action-adventure type games that have better combat than the Shenmue series and even if there are, Shenmue is certainly one of the best in this aspect. So yeah, I don't get the "isn't aged well" thing you said. It couldn't be further from the truth!
i don't want to offend anyone,i like the shenmue combat system,i like complex fightning game(always preferred street fighter rather than virtua fighte).In my opinion is a little weird for today,it needs a little tweak to collision,camera and group fight,not simplified but sharpened
You say that you like complex fighting games and yet you prefer Street Fighter over Virtua Fighter? You kinda contradicted yourself there because Virtua Fighter is alot more complex and deeper than Street Fighter. That's a well known fact. Also, I don't see any adventure game like Shenmue that has a better combat system. The main ones known today are Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series and Yakuza. I think Shenmue definitely has a much better combat system than either of those. Of course I'm not saying it's perfect (it could be made into a more complex, deeper and technical system for example) but it's certainly one of the best ever out of any game. So how could something that is not only one of the best but is also better than modern games not have "aged well"?
killthesagabeforeitkillsu wrote: I'm yet to see a game replicate the 70 men battle.
Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Sounds like you just sucked at it. Anyway, what do you mean by "today's standards"? If we're talking about quality, then today's games aren't anything amazing. There aren't any action-adventure type games that have better combat than the Shenmue series and even if there are, Shenmue is certainly one of the best in this aspect. So yeah, I don't get the "isn't aged well" thing you said. It couldn't be further from the truth!
i don't want to offend anyone,i like the shenmue combat system,i like complex fightning game(always preferred street fighter rather than virtua fighte).In my opinion is a little weird for today,it needs a little tweak to collision,camera and group fight,not simplified but sharpened
You say that you like complex fighting games and yet you prefer Street Fighter over Virtua Fighter? You kinda contradicted yourself there because Virtua Fighter is alot more complex and deeper than Street Fighter. That's a well known fact. Also, I don't see any adventure game like Shenmue that has a better combat system. The main ones known today are Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series and Yakuza. I think Shenmue definitely has a much better combat system than either of those. Of course I'm not saying it's perfect (it could be made into a more complex, deeper and technical system for example) but it's certainly one of the best ever out of any game. So how could something that is not only one of the best but is also better than modern games not have "aged well"?
do you follow FGC??? i like sf and vf but street fighter is harder,have you ever played 3rd strike?1 frame link combo,frame perfect parry ecc,3d fightning game have a lot of fifty fifty situation(that is bad for a competitive fightning game).But let's close this debate,we are going off track
jasonorme666 wrote: I think the old fighting system would age Shenmue 3 terribly.
I'd welcome a new system, look at the Batman Arkham games, the way you chain, block and counter attack is stunning to watch and flows beautifully.
It would be perfect for a martial arts themed game.
Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
drunkensailor wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
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if you were good at the game, it featured none of what you mentioned and fighting with multiple opponents you needed to use throws and isolate single opponents there. I never had a problem
strider16 wrote: All this can be easily solved. When ("if", more realistic) vf6 enters development, it would probably use ue4.
Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:Spardahunter wrote: well,old shenmue combat system isn't aged well,strange collision,fucked camera,fight in first person(during shenmue2)and problem with multiple enemy at time.That combat can appeal only diehard fan,for today standard is shit,but shenmue 3 must use the batman system?no thanks
Sounds like you just sucked at it. Anyway, what do you mean by "today's standards"? If we're talking about quality, then today's games aren't anything amazing. There aren't any action-adventure type games that have better combat than the Shenmue series and even if there are, Shenmue is certainly one of the best in this aspect. So yeah, I don't get the "isn't aged well" thing you said. It couldn't be further from the truth!
i don't want to offend anyone,i like the shenmue combat system,i like complex fightning game(always preferred street fighter rather than virtua fighte).In my opinion is a little weird for today,it needs a little tweak to collision,camera and group fight,not simplified but sharpened
You say that you like complex fighting games and yet you prefer Street Fighter over Virtua Fighter? You kinda contradicted yourself there because Virtua Fighter is alot more complex and deeper than Street Fighter. That's a well known fact. Also, I don't see any adventure game like Shenmue that has a better combat system. The main ones known today are Sleeping Dogs, the Batman Arkham series and Yakuza. I think Shenmue definitely has a much better combat system than either of those. Of course I'm not saying it's perfect (it could be made into a more complex, deeper and technical system for example) but it's certainly one of the best ever out of any game. So how could something that is not only one of the best but is also better than modern games not have "aged well"?
do you follow FGC??? i like sf and vf but street fighter is harder,have you ever played 3rd strike?1 frame link combo,frame perfect parry ecc,3d fightning game have a lot of fifty fifty situation(that is bad for a competitive fightning game).But let's close this debate,we are going off track
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