Spokane wrote: Everything Jeff has said, except that thing about black people and slavery.
And my first thought on the topic was global warming is a hoax.
When did I say anything about black people and slavery?
Spokane wrote: Everything Jeff has said, except that thing about black people and slavery.
And my first thought on the topic was global warming is a hoax.
MiTT3NZ wrote: Well, slavery led to better lives for the descendants of slaves, and helped the Western world become more... tolerable, socially accepting people. Whilst this doesn't apply to a lot of people, it applies to enough to justify the fact that there were positives as a result of such a black mark on human history (pun not intended btw, but it does work well, doesn't it?)
And you cannot blame the current state of Africa on the slave trade. Certain, and often major parts of Africa's history on a whole remains to this day rather sketchy, because - as Gil Scott-Heron so eloquently and sarcastically stated - "nothin was written down on paper."
MiTT3NZ wrote: Never once said that it was good for black people. A positive coming out of something bad doesn't mean it's implied as good. For example...
A young, wealthy 30 year-old dies a horrible death. Leaves all his money in his will to his uncle, who's about to have his house repossessed. Something good comes out of something awful.
Or historically...
Romans invade Britain, kick our arses up n down the country killin n rapin anythin along the way. We ended up benefiting from their advancements in technology.
Or religiously...
Jesus gets tortured and killed. All sins are forgiven.
MiTT3NZ wrote: The event itself is beyond reconciliation, but the results of it help build a better world, believe it or not. If I remember right, that's the whole thing behind the climax of the Watchmen (not that I'm comparing real life to comic books/films... although I did previously mention a religious thing, but still...)
MiTT3NZ wrote: No, slavery may not have been 'needed', hell it was never even suggested, but the alternatives could've been far worse. History tends to tell us one thing... Nations like to attack other nations before deciding whether or not "they're cool." Besides that, the idea of slavery was actually kinda stolen from Africa in the first place. And whilst I don't agree with any of the shit (or a lot of what followed), the situation now has spun out of that. Hell, even Blues began due to the slave trade. So whilst it was awful, disgusting, inhumane, etc., can you honestly say that the world would've been a better place if it had never existed?
MiTT3NZ wrote: And you cannot blame the current state of Africa on the slave trade. Certain, and often major parts of Africa's history on a whole remains to this day rather sketchy, because - as Gil Scott-Heron so eloquently and sarcastically stated - "nothin was written down on paper."
St. Elmo's Fire wrote: Mittz said what I was gonna, re: the "what the Romans did for us" argument. Then he said a load of other stuff way better than I would have done. It started before whitey got there though, and still goes on to this day in a handful of those countries.
St. Elmo's Fire wrote: The slaves that the white man bought were sold to us by blacks themselves, who also profited well from the whole thing. Tribal wars, civil wars, and AIDs IS a problem in some of the countries.
St. Elmo's Fire wrote: Then there's the occasional news story that pops up every so often about drugged up "zombie" slaves being found by the UN or whoever. It was obviously a very bad thing overall, but I'm still not gonna deny that for some, they did end up better out of a bad situation.
Ryudo wrote: I thought Paper was invented by the chinese as well as ink.
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