It would have been a really short game.

I suppose that's great but it's about 15 years late to the party. While I won't be buying anything on this list, I find it odd that Sega would license Shenmue II merchandise like this unless they were planning on rereleasing the series in HD format on current platforms. Without doing so, at least at some point in the near future, it seems that this would be such a niche market to hit.

I upgraded my launch window model from the stock 500GB drive to a 1TB SSD/HD Hybrid drive, which improved load times for system boot and sometimes in games.

I did the same. 500GB was just not enough and I upgraded back in October just before the Uncharted Collection released. The most I have to watch now is my video captures of my Uncharted 4 matches. Every 2-3 weeks, I delete everything having uploaded the good stuff to YouTube. I generally end up with around 40-60GB of recordings every couple weeks in Uncharted 4 alone.

My old eternal question is if we'll ever see a completion to the story?

Will we get stuck for 15 years after the 3rd game? Will there be a 4th game? If so, will we get stuck for 15 years after the 4th game? Will the story complete at the end of the 4th game? Will a fifth game complete the story?

It all boils down to... will we ever see a completion to the story?

Do what I do guys... expect nothing...

...get nothing... don't get disappointed.
...get something... be happy and excited.

So you guys getting excited yet? :lol:

I'm always excited for PSX; I enjoy it more than E3. With the possibility of Shenmue related announcements and\or showings being at this year, I'm over the moon. I'm actually hoping more for a Shenmue HD Collection announcement than info on Shenmue 3. The reason being that I know Shenmue 3 is coming and I have faith that Yu Suzuki and team will do a great job. An HD Collection being announced would make my day as that's something that has been in flux for years but finally has a chance of becoming a reality. That said, I'm not holding my breath.

Beyond Shenmue, I'm hoping to see the following shown or announced at this years PSX:
- Dino Crisis reboot with Regina (I always want this)
- Mass Effect Andromeda release date
- Mass Effect Trilogy remaster for PS4 (last remaster I want)
- Red Dead Redemption 2 info
- Detroit Become Human info (release date would be nice)
- God of War reboot info
- Final Fantasy 7 Remake info (next year is the 20th anniversary so)
- Some random announcement that will make my jaw drop like E3 2015 did.

Anyone know how the PSX show is going to work...since it's spanning over 2 days.

Will there be a schedule of events?...press conference type thing like E3? Looking forward to it :)

Pretty much what Let's Get Sweaty said. All announcements will be made during the opening press conference with the rest of the time for the attendees to try out the games and try to get all the cards for this year's playing card deck. As there have been card decks for the last two years and if Shenmue makes an appearance... expect a Ryo Hazuki PSX 2016 card. :D

I am gonna keep my mouth shut in the future. Probably bow out of here a bit and focus on the Twitch. Believe me, when I say, on so many levels, I am quietly pissed off and frustrated. This game is officialy one year from release, is still being crowd funded, and there needs to be major sales to get a Shenmue 4 into production (confirmed to be needed).

It's not an over reaction either, when you have spent time with the development team and givenjoy so much of your life to this. So many levels of frustrated right now.

Nobody should be blaming you Peter. You were giving info as you thought best and the hype storm for us fans has been high ever since the 2015 announcement. Don't leave the dojo because of other's having too high of expectations and lashing out in the wrong direction.

Hate to say it guys but I'm honestly not that disappointed. I hoped that we would get the Shenmue info we were wanting with a bonus Shenmue HD Collection announcement but I assumed that we would get nothing. I went with hope over sense initially but am used to not getting Shenmue news... thus... I'm ok with the PSX event as is.

I didn't get my top three wanted things but I did get some great game information. Unlike others here, I'm a huge Naughty Dog fan (regardless that they totally messed up Uncharted 4's multiplayer by delaying co-op nearly a year). Starting off with the Uncharted 4 story DLC (Lost Legacy) got me hyped. I checked ND's website and apparently it's a very large story DLC that is so big that it will be released on disc by itself. Think Infamous First Light to Second Son as an example. Then having the conference end with The Last of Us Part 2 was great. Glad to see Ellie and Joel make a return as I really enjoyed their dynamic. Now the question remains... who is Ellie trying to kill?

Then there were other games shown such as Ace Combat 7, Wipeout, Crash trilogy and a few others that at the very least, looked interesting. A shame that Shenmue wasn't shown, but it was a really good show.

"it's because I want everyone to see it so badly. It's the BIGGEST contrast to what we are experiencing right now, in the drip fed updates.

Shenmue will be a serious winner. I am hedging my bets to be safe like Sony did last year, but there's the possibility there from what I've seen, of another Witcher 3 situation. Yes I just said that. Hold me to the mark whenever this game comes out."

I have to say, Peter, that your optimistic and enthusiastic posts always get my Shenmue hype train back up to full speed. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to hold out until next June and/or beyond (still holding out hope for the HD remasters soon) before going for a replay.

When it comes to making a remaster for S1 and S2, any exclusive deal for Xbox One makes no sense. Phil Spencer has even been interviewed about S3, saying that it wasn't the correct deal for them. What are they going to do, Pay for an exclusive that says this...? "Come and play Shenmue 1 and 2 exclusively on our system...and then not be able to play Shenmue 3".

Any deal that has been made would be as is for Shenmue 3, i.e Console exclusive to PS4 and then on PC. However, in this situation, I believe Sega would want to get as much cash as possible, thus it would be on both consoles and the PC. I am almost even doubting a physical release, which is why I don't believe that IXCM website.



I agree with that. I don't see Shenmue being on Xbox again unless Shenmue 3 eventually comes to it as well. Hopefully it does for those within the fanbase that have only played S2 on the original Xbox.



Sega has the cash to do a remaster, it doesn't seem risky, I believe it will be digital only (please be wrong) and will be on PSN, Xbox Live and Steam, as these types of remaster always do.


Yeah, I have a feeling that if Shenmue HD Collection does happen that it's going to be digital only. That would truly suck but I see it being a far more likely choice for Sega. The best I see is maybe a limited collector's edition run of Shenmue HD Collection IF it actually releases. Make no mistake... if this is the case, a preorder will be happening regardless that I don't really preorder anymore.

So are all these "Coming in April" and "on PS4 and X1" sources all likely BS? I will admit that my heart started racing a bit when I saw April. Keeping it in check still.

A few days late to this party but happy new year everyone. I have a feeling it's going to be a good one.

Sega higher-ups are part of Lan Di's gang! Proof below!



From the Nintendo Switch event last night. Clearly suspicious.

How could I not be hyped still? E3 2015 was truly the E3 of dreams.

I've been waiting 15 years to continue the story and we finally get too! :D

My wife knew how much I wanted the continuation and for my birthday gave me the green light to put $100 on the Kickstarter the night it was announced. She rolls her eyes often at my gaming, but knew how much the series meant to me.

I can't wait for the third.

I'm hoping the 4th game will be the final so that we get an ending.

I'm honestly not expecting anything Shenmue related until E3. At E3 though, I'm hoping for the moon and expecting a short trailer for the 3rd game. The moon being a Shenmue HD Collection on PS4/PC and a Shenmue 3 trailer/update.

Not sure how many of you remember or even played Destruction Derby back in the day but it was an absolute blast and one of my favorite racers on PS1.

Original PS1 game:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Destructionderby3.jpg

Two days ago I discovered Wreckfest which is being done by BugBear who created Flatout. Wreckfest is essentially Destruction Derby but for today's hardware. It's going to be available on PC, PS4 and X1.

Apparently, their main site http://www.wreckfestgame.com is taking preorders which act as a form of crowd funding. The list of games I would crowd fund is very small. Shenmue 3 was obviously the top of that list followed by the 4th if it becomes necessary. Destruction Derby and a Dino Crisis reboot were basically the only others. Due to that, I personally went with the $25 PS4 version which gets me the game (no physical copy planned), soundtrack and a couple other perks.

https://youtu.be/rDPSVo0X0LE

I haven't seen anyone talk about this game and as Destruction Derby was a favorite of mine, I thought I would give you guys a heads up. If you enjoy crashing cars, this is probably right up your alley. Thought I would pass the word as this is said to release by end of spring or summer this year. Get it at $25 instead of the $50 they will be asking. There's even a $20 tier if you just want the game. The last tier is $70 which gets your name in the credits and a bunch of other stuff I don't really care about.

If an announcement for Shenmue HD Collection would be happening, I would think this upcoming E3 would be the place to do it. If Shenmue 3 is on target and actually releases this December, that would give newcomers to the series a max of six months to play through the first two games.

I truly hope that Xbox players get the Shenmue treatment as well. That said, I'm hoping that with Shenmue 3 that YsNet focuses on the PS4 and PC versions and get those completed before spending resource time and money on porting it to the X1.

killthesagabeforeitkillsu wrote:

Off Topic: Andromeda is a gigantic mess of a game.

I honestly don't see how. Maybe I got the only copy of the game that runs fine and is fun to play?

sand4fish wrote: Which part of Shenmue is a RPG? 'cause I never really thought of it as being one.

Favorites of mine would include Planescape Torment, the original Deux Ex and Divinity Original Sin.

If Destiny counts then Shenmue definitely counts.

It's a great idea to be sure; showing extra support. Everyone enjoys being appreciated as I'm sure this team would as well. That said, I'm tapped out of resources at the moment and cannot contribute beyond adding a thank you in written form.

I don't see a Shenmue Remake of the first two games as ever happening. While it would be incredible, right now Remasters are the best bet and we should be thankful for that given Shenmue's history. With Shenmue 3 finally happening I think once Shenmue 3 goes gold and is released, we should hope YsNet makes enough return on the new chapter to warrant a 4th and hopefully final installment still on PS4 and PC.

Imagine the entire Shenmue story line on a single system. Glorious.

Hey all!

I decided to be creative and come up with box art for what Shenmue may have been like if it were on Sega Game Gear. Why do this? I love my Game Gear and would have totally bought this. Sadly, Game Gear wasn't supported for nearly long enough IMO.

I did not create any of the art but merely put it together to make one piece. A hypothetical look at what the box art would have been like.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Telekill/ShenmueGGBoxArt_zpsdjelpivc.jpg

I had saved a Tiff that looked a lot better but Photobucket doesn't allow Tiffs. Let me know what you think. Also, I did this in PowerPoint just to see if I could.

Ok,

So, it was two years ago that Shenmue 3 gets announced after having a rather large following and hundreds of fans clamoring for the sequel and eventually having to pay for the game to even be created via crowd funding.

Meanwhile, two years later... Seaman gets backed and starts up without the need of a Kickstarter. What the actual F?

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2017/05/25/a-new-seaman-project-is-in-the-works.aspx

I don't want Limited Run Games doing them Sega can pulish Shenmue I and II HD and YS Net will publish Shenmue III YS Net confirmed that Shenmue III is coming to retail so thats good news! I prefer retail more then Limited Run Games!

.... Limited run being the collector's edition. The physical release would continue in retail the same time frame as any other release.

BUY MULTIPLE COPIES AT LAUNCH IF YOU WANT A SHENMUE IV. THIS CANNOT BE STRESSED ENOUGH.

I know many on this forum are planning to buy multiple copies but not all of us have that kind of expendable cash flow. I think it's a bit unrealistic and kind of mean to ask all fans of the series to buy multiple copies via guilt trips that it's their fault if Shenmue 4 is never made because they didn't buy 2 or more copies of the third game.

I loved Shenmue 1 and 2 and was happy to put in $113 on the Shenmue 3 crowd funding to be part of resurrecting the franchise. That essentially was me buying a "collector's edition" of the game and I am tapped out until Shenmue HD or Shenmue 4 are announced. Make no mistake, I feel Shenmue 3 will be successful enough on its own merit to warrant a 4th and final game in the series. If it's another crowd funding cause, I will participate.

I got my Switch at launch with Zelda but kept it hidden away until Mario Kart 8 released. It's the new family system. I waited for Mario Kart so that we could play 4 player right out of the box (bought 2 pro controllers) as a family and so the kids felt it was just as much their system instead of them just watching me play Zelda all the time.

Made a great day of the kids following clues around town. Each clue was in a 2" paper craft Mario Item box. We went to places like the park, McDonalds, their dance studio, ice cream parlor, etc. Eventually the clues led back to home where there was a 14" box made to look like a Mario Item box. Inside was the Switch, all the accessories, Zelda and Mario Kart. Great fun.

Now that the newness has worn off, I'm looking ahead to see what's going to be released and Nintendo is pretty tight lipped about that. Mario Odyssey will end up on the list to buy for this Christmas probably, but other than that, the system is looking pretty bleak on releases for the foreseeable future. At least as my tastes are concerned. I'm hoping for some big E3 reveals such as F-Zero, Smash Bros, or Zelda Four Swords type game. Some fun family couch coop stuff.

Shenmue III does have the advantage of having had a lot of pre-production work done prior to its current development period. I'm not sure if it's possible to quantify how much time that counts for in the overall process of bringing forth the completed game, but my impression is that it's a significant amount.

That's a great point and one that I didn't really think about. Suzuki has stated many times that Shenmue has always been in his thoughts since the series was cut off without an ending. There had to be plenty of the game made for the Kickstarter reveal as well. Obviously not a huge amount, but a decent amount.

The hype is real:

16 days

until Sony's E3 2017 press conference
:rotflmao:

You seem to be a very fun parent!

Thank you.

Their reaction was great. Luckily, McDonald's even had Nintendo toys in their happy meals. I had Yoshi plushes holding three of the clues (one for each kid). The trick was getting my 10 and 4 year olds to work together. My third kiddo is only 9 months old so he'll enjoy the Switch down the road.

I have zero doubts Shenmue HD is ready to go, but I think it's Shenmue 3 and YSNET that may be holding it up. As they said in their last update, they still don't have their schedule locked down so until then, I can't see Sega releasing them, or even promoting them until there are clear indications of a schedule from the Japanese development team.

If Shenmue 3 is a way off, be it a year or even 2 years delay, then there are multiple risks for releasing Shenmue HD too early, including people forgetting about the franchise all over again based on a potentially long period of time between a HD release date, to Shenmue 3 release date. Another risk is HD remasters bringing a lot more fans into the franchise which, despite being amazing, means the pressure placed on YSNET to hurry up with Shenmue 3 increases, and they are already feeling enough of that as it is with the game being a Kickstarter.

I'm not expecting anything at E3 at all, but it would be nice to be surprised.

Respectfully disagree with your assertions. It is PIVOTAL that SEGA release Shenmue I/II HD as soon as possible. The more time we have to market Shenmue I/II HD to the masses, the better. You also make the argument that it's bad to have more fans because of more pressure? Really? THAT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR DECADES!!

The more time and more fans we can attract in that time THE BETTER.

SEGA SHOULD KNOW THIS.

OK! I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! NO NEED TO SHOOOOOOOUT!


Now then...

Believe it or not I disagree with my own post, but in a weird way, I am trying to find logic in what we all disagree with together.... Why these HD releases are not out yet. That's all. I'm trying to justify not releasing games which are heavily rumored to have been completed for some time.

So then, if you respectfully disagree, then cool. So what's all your explanations for these completed games not being announced, never mind released?

Well, its been obvious this last 15 years that Sega doesn't give a crap about most of their IPs or fans of those IPs. I fully expect the president of Sega to go up on stage. The screens behind him go dark and the Shenmue theme starts playing. A trailer for Shenmue HD Collection is shown and when the lights come up he is there holding a PS4 copy of the game.

Sega president: "This is the only copy of Shenmue HD Collection in existence.

He then opens it up. Takes the disc out, holding it up. Then snaps the disc, drops the shards on stage and holds up two middle fingers while yelling "fuck you!". He then walks off and the next presenter is so stunned that he forgets he's supposed to start.

...I wouldn’t mind getting rid of my old Gamecube though, haha!

I regret selling my Gamecube. I got rid of it when I got the Wii that had Gamecube support. Problem is that the Wii was a waste of space and I only have Zelda Twilight Princess on Gamecube left. Wish I still had some of my Gamecube games like Mario Sunshine and Soul Calibur 2, but alas... I got rid of them to make room. I'm hoping that the Nintendo Switch will have a proper virtual console eventually that goes up to the Gamecube days and I can get my favorites from that era.

I still like to collect gaming mags. My oldest issue is 1992. So I was 9 then. I have retroactively bought a couple but most the ones I have I grew up getting. When Nintendo Power ended I bought 2 copies. One is still sealed and they sell for a bit these days. I do subscribe to Retro Magazine and Nintendo Force which replaced Nintendo Power.

I used to collect all sorts of gaming magazines. I had GamePro issues, EGM... even Sega Visions. Sadly, getting bumped around as a child with so many moves, I lost track of my box of magazines. I can only assume they were thrown out along with some of my favorite childhood toys (Jurassic Park and Crash Dummies).

I'm so sorry for my question: For which backers is the demo?

Looks like the trial or demo of the game is for those that donated $100 or more on either Kickstarter or Paypal.

I can't remember anymore... but I assume that if you pledged at a certain level that you get everything else at lower pledge levels. Example being that if you pledged at $100 on Kickstarter, that you get the $80, $60, $40, etc prizes on top of the $100 pledge prizes as well.

So you would get the following on the $100 Kickstarter pledge:

- Name in credits
- Trial or Demo on PC
- The $80 S3 World Telecom to speak to previous characters
- The $60 choice of version of the game
- The $40 Wallpapers and name on website
- And of course the thanks and praise from Yu Suzuki and ability to vote in polls and get info first.

It's typical Sega, and also probably haven't involved Sony, keeping it for PC only.

But maybe that's a good thing, and watching these events, I won't be anticipating anything at all.

I would be beyond pissed if Shenmue HD Collection is announced as PC only. BEYOND pissed. If it's happening, it had better come to PS4 as well. It's the logical move. The sad part is that Sega hasn't been logical in nearly two decades.

I'm not excited about the delay but I'm not angry either. Shenmue is a game that shouldn't be rushed. Many of us were expecting a delay of some kind. I hope it actually comes out next year and doesn't have further delay. A delay into 2019 would anger me a little but I'm a patient person.

With this news, my expecting a Shenmue HD Collection announcement next week has dropped from 90% to 40% sure. The year delay of the third moves the burner out from under Sega's ass. They'll be in no rush to announce the HD Collection if ever now. E3 2018 now has a far better chance for that reveal.

I spotted a Dreamcast in the trailer!!!

I am desperately hoping for a mobile port of Shenmue 2 so I can play it portably. I really don't have time to play on my Dreamcast anymore. Since they said it would be free (including ads however which can be paid for to be removed) it looks good. Sega just want it the easy way and thats what they are doing. I wish HD remasters happen first for Shenmue so they at least make a profit.

I'm not gonna lie. If our HD remasters of Shenmue ended up being on mobile devices only... I would probably vomit.

It's not happening. I know a guy that runs in circles with people that buy coffee's for people similar to those that may work at Sega but are located at a different company. They said that Shenmue HD isn't going to happen and that we should all just move on.

Seems credible to me.

Him. Would anyone clarify that maybe a shenmue remaster could be in the way?
And, how many discs you reckon guys yu Suzuki will provide the final product packaging? Please reply!

Assuming the two games are bundled together into a physical format there are a couple ways they could do this. Each Dreamcast GD-ROM disc could hold about 1GB of information. Shenmue 1 was 3 discs plus a 4th for the Passport. Shenmue 2 was 4 discs. That's, at most, 8GB of information for the two games. A single Blu-ray disc for PS4 can hold upwards of 50GB. For PC, the game would be on DVD which can hold roughly 4.7GB-9GB; plenty of space for the games.

If they are bundled together they could put one game on one disc for a two disc collection or put both on a single disc like Capcom did with the Resident Evil Origins Collection. Sadly, knowing Sega, if we do get a Shenmue HD Collection, fans can realistically hope for digital download only as they wouldn't be willing to put anymore money into the project than they would absolutely have too.

I really don't have a problem with this. To me, the publisher doesn't make the game but simply ensures that it gets out to the public. I am a little worried about the possible amount of exposure the game will get via advertising as I can't recall seeing any advertising for a few of Deep Silver's games, but I'm sure that the fans, as loud as we are, will do a good job of word of mouth advertising. That will help.

@Yokosuka - I have to agree with Spaghetti on this one.


Technophilz turns up whenever new information comes out, says something negative whether it has any basis in factual reality or not, and disappears again.


I've been around since the E3 reveal and out of all the responses I've seen Technophilz make... what Spaghetti says is pretty spot on. I'm not sure I've ever seen a positive post from him.

I understand disappointment in the Shenmue series as far as no HD remakes officially announced yet. Sega apparently sitting on their thumbs while wearing a dunce cap in the corner of the ol' school classroom. With Shenmue 3 though, we know very little. From what has been said by others it is a good possibility that we simply haven't seen much of the third game yet because Yu Suzuki doesn't want to share yet. Let's wait till after Gamescom to see if there needs to be reason for panic. That is... assuming we get a decent reveal.

So then are we to believe that the horrible looking new logo is the doing of Deep Silver's new involvement as publisher?

It's a simple case of asking the question in any problem solving situation... "What has changed?"

Change: Deep Silver announcing themselves as publishers of Shenmue 3.
Change: Shenmue 3 logo has become a horrid excuse of a logo that looks like it was written by someone illiterate.
Time of Change: Same time.

The correlation is 100%. Ergo, Deep Silver changed the logo.

http://wallpapersin4k.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Spock-Quotes-23.jpg

Let's Get Sweaty wrote:

Telekill wrote:BBC Sherlock took it from Spock. Either way, both shows are great.

I hope you're trolling and know full well the Sherlock character wasn't created for TV...

I've been playing Sonic Mania on the Switch and have been loving the retro feel. There are so many references, not only to the main Genesis and Sega CD games but also the Game Gear games like Chaos and Triple Trouble. Even Chaotix from the 32X is referenced. It's a glorious celebration of Sonic's golden era.

I've been enjoying the game so much that I did a mock up of what the box art would look like if it released on Genesis. Let me know what you think.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/Telekill/SonicManiaBoxArt2_zpszmztqpas.jpg

Ok... Just read the actual Kickstarter. Apparently the new logo was designed by Suzuki himself and if I read correctly, he painted it. This makes me kind of feel bad that I said it looks like a kid scribbled it on paper with a crayon.

That said, I stand by hating the new logo.

I still don't like the new logo regardless that Suzuki made it.

We all knew that there would be lots of haters. Nothing has changed in that regard. The game still needs work but they've given themselves the time they need to be successful.

For those saying that limiting themselves to only PS4 will hurt sales of the game, then you must be forgetting the game is also coming to PC. I don't even know why people buy Xbox as it no longer has any system exclusives. That said, future ports are still possible. For the launch it's PS4/PC only.