Metal Gear series

[OL]

Well, it's still a portable version of a great game. It would never take the place of the console version for me (don't have the HD version yet, but I'm looking forward to it), but being able to play through MGS3 during a plane ride or something like that would be pretty sweet anyway, regardless of a few technical issues.

[Dorian]

Well, it's still a portable version of a great game. It would never take the place of the console version for me (don't have the HD version yet, but I'm looking forward to it), but being able to play through MGS3 during a plane ride or something like that would be pretty sweet anyway, regardless of a few technical issues.

The problem being, it isn't a portable version of a great home console game. It's a weak port - the game was not re-designed for the 3DS. Choppy framerate, watered-down graphics, clunky controls and the lack of some of the original content. Hardly an attraction. But hey, it was cheap to port so Konami will be happy with any kind of sales.

[Bluecast]

Plus it's not even a port. It's a total remake.

[Dorian]

Plus it's not even a port. It's a total remake.

[Bluecast]

Dorian do you ever tire of judging things before you even play?

Oh hey look 3DS looks better gee wiz. But then you will come back with some BS how the screen is wrong then show the vid again then say the vid is wrong. Jesus fucking christ

[Bluecast]

Hey look more proof !


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zzLmTVTsU[/youtube]

When Kojima took the stage he said Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D is not a remastered version, its a remake created from scratch

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/28/me ... ys-kojima/

If you argue against this then you're acting like an idiot like Riku says

[Dorian]

Dorian do you ever tire of judging things before you even play?

Oh hey look 3DS looks better gee wiz. But then you will come back with some BS how the screen is wrong then show the vid again then say the vid is wrong. Jesus fucking christ

It's not a remake even by a stretch of the imagination. They just changed the colour pallet and added new costumes for Snake. The characters models are virtually unchanged from the PS2 version and there's virtually none of the additional content from the PS2 re-release (Subsistence and Existence). The added stuff: redesigned menus (lol), ability to walk while crouching (all reports from the fans claim that it makes the game too easy), Yoshi figurines and, obviously, the 3D effect. It's just a quick cash-in that requires you to buy the 3DS add-on for second stick since playing it with just one is a nightmare. Plus, it really struggles to run on 3DS as the cut-scenes are reported to go into a crawl.

[Bluecast]

^ Yup Riku is right about you.

Hey look more proof !


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_zzLmTVTsU[/youtube]

When Kojima took the stage he said Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D is not a remastered version, its a remake created from scratch

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/11/28/me ... ys-kojima/

If you argue against this then you're acting like an idiot like Riku says

[Dorian]

They had to build it on the 3DS from scratch, but they've used the PS2 data. It's a rebuilding of the PS2 game, not a re-imagination of the original game made specially for the 3DS. You're the idiot here, Ryudo, if you believe all the PR crap all of a sudden. Maybe you should finally start to listen to people who are actually fans of the MGS games for over a decade and know this game better than you from watching youtube clips. You always take your "facts" from bullshit websites instead of thinking for yourself.

[Bluecast]

You're act like such a stubborn fool sometimes who argues just to argue can never admit when they are wrong and even argues with Kojima himself and you think you know more than him when you have never even touched the game or a 3DS. Jesus this is how you get your kicks. So even tho you would commit suicide if you ever found out your wrong. Sorry but you are.

Fucking hell I want alcohol now and I never drink. I need to get drunk now

[OL]

It's just a quick cash-in that requires you to buy the 3DS add-on for second stick since playing it with just one is a nightmare.

Not gonna get into the arguments about graphics or polygons or what have you, but I think calling it a "quick" cash-in is a bit much. It had a full development time of about two or three years. Nothing particularly "quick" about that.
It seems like they were trying to do something legitimately cool and worthwhile. Whether they pulled it off technically in a seamless manner is something else entirely. And I'm sure the original would probably end up preferable for me anyway.
But either way, with so much work put into it over such a development time as it had, I'd find it hard to write it off as just a quick, random grab at a few extra cents.

[Bluecast]

^ Don't worry he will find a way to say your wrong even tho you're not

[Dorian]

Maybe the engine is remade, but the assets aren't.

You are the one coming as a moron, Ryudo. Plus, a tyrannic douche. Stop playing a wise guy just because you have google - stop using web searches and start using your brain

[OL]

You do realize you're both pretty much saying the same thing, right?
The graphics and gameplay are remade, but the story, cutscenes, art design, and levels are all the same as before.
It basically just comes down to how you want to define "remake".

[Dorian]

It had a full development time of about two or three years. Nothing particularly "quick" about that. It seems like they were trying to do something legitimately cool and worthwhile. Whether they pulled it off technically in a seamless manner is something else entirely. And I'm sure the original would probably end up preferable for me anyway. (...) The graphics and gameplay are remade, but the story, cutscenes, art design, and levels are all the same as before. It basically just comes down to how you want to define "remake".

Kojima is know to have lied many times in recent years. Yes, he specifically said that this game was made from scratch and that it was optimized for the 3DS, but if that's the case, then tell me why it struggles to even run on the 3DS? Check the video reviews - the game is choppy as hell (Gamtrailers even lowered the score because of this as it kills the cinematic nature of the game). Also, the gameplay is not changed to accommodate to the new control scheme and the portable nature of the 3DS. They didn't even bother to change the enemies placement. Full development time and all we have is a flawed reconstruction of the PS2 game. Konami is not playing fair about this one.

Ryudo picked a few shots that adhere to his silly vision of a remake, but in reality some of the models look exactly the same as in the PS2 version. The only true difference is in the lightning and in some textures (but they look worse!).