Gaming thoughts of the day

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:20 pm

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote:Remember I've sat there modifying dolphin and even messing around with the frontloading assets. That said its still not bad scale, and I "get how it works" It has its share of issues but its still a pretty good game that provides a lot of fu especially to someone like me who is playing it in higher quality.

Playing it on Dolphin diminishes some of the exploration problems found on Wii, that's for sure.

As for the 'fu'. That's the ironic part. The game promises a lot of things to do and it really is long, but you're actually doing 2-3 things all over again, just with different NPC and enemy skins. There's far too much genericness and repeatability in Xenoblade, even for a JRPG.

Even the item descriptions are lazy and there's a shitload of patterns leading to excessive copypasta solutions. The fighting system is the worst thing right after the anime-wannabe plot. At first sight, it's an extremely complex mix of strategy and real-time mechanics. In reality, it's as simplistic as something from the first DQ or FF. You're given an illusion (yet again in Xenoblade something is based on fooling the player) that the attacks are based on your timing and movement. The whole map running is bullshit because the game has a special 'behind the curtains' set of rules that determine what happens in battle. The map visualization of battle is just a smoke-screen.

This is a game worth it's price, but it's not a game made by the gods. What's worse, in some aspects it's actually a step back from Xenogears and Xenosaga (it should be called "Xenosaga for Dummies" when it comes to the story). I am very objective here. That's the point. Personally, I can forgive Xenoblade a lot just because Shulk is hot, but objectively the game is far from great.

but if you can't stand to hear the games you like being shit on I won't be able to tell you what I've found.

The things I love the most are also the things that get the most criticism. There's no shit you could take on classics jRPGs that I didn't take before so it's not scary for me, Manny. You should know by now that you can scare me with a vagina, not with a critique of jRPGs.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:54 pm

I don't really disagree with any of that beyond some small things, but many of those issues are in most of the games in the genre. Thats pretty much the point I'm trying to make.

we need to fix the base feedback loop.

(also the spelling errors keep happening because my fingers are KILLING me, I even fucked up an official email)
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:58 pm

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote: I don't really disagree with any of that beyond some small things, but many of those issues are in most of the games in the genre. Thats pretty much the point I'm trying to make.

we need to fix the base feedback loop.

Do you remember how I said that Xenoblade is not the song of revival, but the metaphorical swan song for the genre? I restate that. Xenoblade is the final lament of the traditional jRPG formula. You can add polygons, but if the core isn't build from scratch, we're going to watch as the dead guy decomposes.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:00 pm

lol pain in the ass.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:01 pm

The good thing being, I don't need new jRPGs. The existing ones, especially the 90s ones, will suffice for me up until my death. I wouldn't mind a successful revolution in the genre, though.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby KiBa » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:21 pm

Buying Jet Set Radio for PC. Hope they do the same cross-platform release of Shenmue I and II. The idea that we're so close to playing Shenmue on PC makes me so very happy. Then I will have my whole DC favorites lineup on PC, the first being Sonic Adventure, which was a fine port that I still play regularly. Then they should do Saturn on PC.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:44 pm

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby MiTT3NZ » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:59 pm

What's that game? And KiBa, what happened to your Claw theme?
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Thief » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 pm

I've glanced at this site 3 times over the past hour and each time KiBa had a different avatar/sig. :P

EDIT: Also a sign that I need to go outside. Peace.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:02 pm

MiTT3NZ wrote: What's that game? And KiBa, what happened to your Claw theme?


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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:10 pm

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote:
MiTT3NZ wrote: What's that game? And KiBa, what happened to your Claw theme?


Persona 3

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby KiBa » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:21 pm

MiTT3NZ wrote: What's that game? And KiBa, what happened to your Claw theme?


Looking for a better quality gif. So, I've been cycling through my oldies to check sizes and so forth.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:25 pm

^That post misses this:

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:31 pm

I owe OL an apology, the final version of DOA5 is a lot better then I though.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Dorian » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:34 pm

Segata Sanshiro Jr. wrote: I owe OL an apology, the final version of DOA5 is a lot better then I though.

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