Gaming thoughts of the day

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Feb 07, 2013 3:44 am

Don't like it but Axm is right but we are at least 15 years from enough people having good enough broadband to download full size retail games to make it standard (games which will only get bigger next gen). My current BB takes about a day to download a game around 6GB.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:24 am

We must be having 2 different debates. All I am saying is not enough people have the ability to have online 24/7 esp at high speeds and this idea would be bad business and cause more piracy. It also raises issues with how long the service is supported depending on the game and developer and the console itself. If MS and/or Sony really did this to their console it would be a total sales disaster.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:35 am

Well with slumping retail figures, lowered profit forecasts despite less shipments, and so many studios going under really jumping ship to Digital only and doing things like locking games seems like a bad idea.

Its like the iOS market. Everyone thinks its having this huge impact on handheld consoles. So now we're at a point where the 3DS is making a ton of money and releasing stuff people actually like to play.

We've got stuff like all the bravest, which made some money, but it only takes a few suckers to buy something for it to be profitable. Now, releasing something like Bravely Default would make them a lot more money. It needs to sell more copies but people will actually want to buy more games from you because they actually like it. We get on brands and consistency (which is the only thing keeping a lot of companies like Square-Enix) alive.

So the problem isn't so much digital or physical only. See if games get DRM free versions that can play on any suitable hardware, then physical copies of games and backups will become available to those who want them. One hand will wash the other.

This is basically what piracy would end up like. People softmodding consoles, buying games and faking the updates. If they managed to limit things to digital we'd start seeing people selling backups...kinda like the dreamcast.

the scary thing is that really we're just renting out games, we have no right as buyers and unlike the minute or hour of value you get out of music or movies, games are more of an investment. Digital rental services have existed on PC for quite a while now, but its cheaper thanks to services like Gog and Steam to actually buy stuff instead of rent.

Its not completely hopeless if we resist.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Samanosuke Akechi » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:15 am

Anyone else find it interesting that these methods have been accepted in the PC gaming community (for the most part) but it's always hated when it comes to consoles?

Regarding the subject,does steam offer an offline mode?Or does it depend on the game?
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Segata Sanshiro Jr. » Thu Feb 07, 2013 6:21 am

It does indeed offer an offline mode.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:26 am

Dont all Ubisoft PC games require you to be online?
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:16 am

Report saying the PS4 will be $400+.

Would say £350 is the most i would spend on a console now days.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Riku Rose » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:22 am

In two weeks there will be reports saying that the consoles will have Avatar like graphics and cost $800.

Two weeks later we will get the no second hand games rumor again.

Then two weeks after that we will yet again get the report saying the consoles have to be online to work.

Maybe we should just wait for the things to actually be announced?
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Sonikku » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:24 am

OR we could keep repeating the same exact rumors over and over again and make a fortune in ad revenue?

-Gamespot/IGN/etc

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:25 am

We all ready had the avatar one :lol:


This report simply got me thinking how much i would pay not including games.
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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Riku Rose » Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:25 am

^That's my point the same rumors keep coming back over and over. One will come out next week which cancels this one out like it always does. It just makes more sense to wait for actual announcements rather then everyone getting their panties in a twist. After all we only have two weeks until the PS4 get's announced.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:48 pm

The fact that Edge posted the latest 360 one is a bit of a worry.

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:12 pm

http://wiiudaily.com/2013/02/rayman-leg ... exclusive/

Rayman Legends coming to PS3/Xbox 360

Awesome now I can get it

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby St. Elmo's Fire » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:15 pm

Agree with Riku, but yes, the Edge factor is a worry.

I don't even like the fact that Steam insists it has to be opened for me to play the games I downloaded with it. I set it to "Offline mode" and de-activated the "Load Steam when you switch your PC on" setting, toom pretty much as soon as I downloaded it. I've no idea why these things bother me (well, a bit of it is that this laptop needs no help in running slower), but they damned well do, if I pay money for shit, I want to be in control of how I use it, not be told "I must be online 24/7" or whatever. Gonna be keeping an eye on this, and if it is all true, then I'll probably be more or less done with gaming in a few years from now...

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Re: Gaming thoughts of the day

Postby Bluecast » Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:19 pm

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/02/07/expec ... very-year/

Ouya to release a new system every year.

Eh that kills any interest in the slimmest margins for me. Since the first year they are slim on any exclusives and saying early adopters are screwed til the better twouya comes out.
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