Yakuza series

[Riku Rose]

So the reason is a graveyard scene? In that case they both copied it from Saving Private Ryan.

[OL]

^^Must be.
Yeah, just because there's a graveyard scene after an ambiguous possible death doesn't mean one was inspired by the other. This reminds me of not too long ago, someone saying the same thing about Shenmue and Uncharted, just because there was a scene in Uncharted 2 with Asian people, a brown jacket, and a soccer ball (oh, I'm sorry, a foot ball). The person was alleging with such high fucking hopes that Uncharted 2 must have been inspired by Shenmue just because of those elements in a particular scene, even though they were obviously unrelated.

Just because there are similarities between two things (very, very vague similarities) doesn't mean that one was inspired by the other.
You can say "I'm not saying he ripped it off, he was just inspired by it" all you want, but you're still alleging that Kojima swiped his ideas from another game, when it quite obviously isn't the case. There's a graveyard scene at the end of MGS4 because it was appropriate. It fit the game. It wasn't because Kojima played Yakuza 2 and said "what a great ending, I'm gonna do my game like that!"
That's ridiculous.

[Crimson Ryan]

He must of played some fucked up games before putting together MGS2 then.

[Mythical Being]

I've never played Yakuza before before but I downloaded the demo tonight and boy it seemed old school. I could not get into the gameplay at all, it seemed so stale.

I really want to play this game. It should be perfect. Japanese, inaccessible to the casual gamer, good story. I just could not like the demo though, I switched it off after not long.

Should I get this game or has my chance to ever play Yakuza faded with time?

[mue 26]

^^Must be.
Yeah, just because there's a graveyard scene after an ambiguous possible death doesn't mean one was inspired by the other. This reminds me of not too long ago, someone saying the same thing about Shenmue and Uncharted, just because there was a scene in Uncharted 2 with Asian people, a brown jacket, and a soccer ball (oh, I'm sorry, a foot ball). The person was alleging with such high fucking hopes that Uncharted 2 must have been inspired by Shenmue just because of those elements in a particular scene, even though they were obviously unrelated.

Just because there are similarities between two things (very, very vague similarities) doesn't mean that one was inspired by the other.
You can say "I'm not saying he ripped it off, he was just inspired by it" all you want, but you're still alleging that Kojima swiped his ideas from another game, when it quite obviously isn't the case. There's a graveyard scene at the end of MGS4 because it was appropriate. It fit the game. It wasn't because Kojima played Yakuza 2 and said "what a great ending, I'm gonna do my game like that!"
That's ridiculous.

Im not sayin its a bad thing, but the way the final fights in those two games played out is very similar(on the rooftops with no shirts on, even the way the characters slug it out in the end, I think snake and liquid even punch each other at the same time in the end just like the characters in Y2 do, and other little things)

Like I said I dont think its a bad thing but I think it did inspire kojima a lil bit maybe, but he did not do rip off at all or anything like that

[Riku Rose]

People have had a fight on a roof before Matrix and Shenmue II come to mind.

Should I get this game or has my chance to ever play Yakuza faded with time?

Like what has been said in this thread already the battle system is something you need to know so will grow on you. I'd say try the first Yakuza if you can since it's pretty cheap and then if you like it you can play the series in order.

[Bluecast]

OMFG Tokyo Beat Down ripped off Shenmue!

It had a boss in chinese styled robe you fight ona rooftop! THOSE BASTARDS!


But I am the only one here who played that amazing beat em up but now that I find out it ripped Shenmue off with a rooftop fight..TO HELL WITH IT!

[Samanosuke Akechi]

Guess my chance to play yakuza 3 will have to wait.

I never really kept up with the ps3 but I learned that they are in high demand.2 Target stores I checked were sold out,Gamestop,Radioshack,Bestbuy,and ToysRus were also out.Hell,even sonystyle.com don't have any units.

The only place that have them is Frys,they only carry refurbished fat ps3s though,should I go ahead and get a fat one or just wait it out?

[ys]

Strange. Over here there's always a few consoles (or bundles) available at the stores. So I thought that the sales were moderate because of that.

[Samanosuke Akechi]

The employees I talked to all mentioned God of War 3.Considering some big name exclusives are being released,I can see why some retailers have shortages.

Still,I wished sony was better prepared for this.I used to see them EVERYWHERE when I didn't want a ps3.Now that I do,they are sold out.I find it odd that it has been in the market 3 years and just now experiencing shortages?

[Crimson Ryan]

The employees I talked to all mentioned God of War 3.Considering some big name exclusives are being released,I can see why some retailers have shortages.

Still,I wished sony was better prepared for this.I used to see them EVERYWHERE when I didn't want a ps3.Now that I do,they are sold out.I find it odd that it has been in the market 3 years and just now experiencing shortages?

They're doing it deliberately because of some component changes that are cheaper to manufacture.

How much was the refurbished fat PS3? If the harddrive is less than 40GB, I wouldn't bother. (Scrap that, unless you want the added cost of a larger harddrive. But you'll have to install it yourself..)

[Samanosuke Akechi]

I can buy an 80 gig refurbished ps3 for about $250.I can buy that and have enough for both the system and the game or just buy a ps3 slim and wait to get the game until later.

[Crimson Ryan]

I can buy an 80 gig refurbished ps3 for about $250.I can buy that and have enough for both the system and the game or just buy a ps3 slim and wait to get the game until later.

How much do new slims cost compared to the $250 for the fat 80GB? If you really want the PS3, at this point, just for Yakuza 3, I'd say go for the cheaper option. My 40GB fat is sufficient enough for me and I've had it and loads of games for well over a year now. Not even filled up half of the HDD in it's lifetime.

[ys]

The employees I talked to all mentioned God of War 3.Considering some big name exclusives are being released,I can see why some retailers have shortages.

Still,I wished sony was better prepared for this.I used to see them EVERYWHERE when I didn't want a ps3.Now that I do,they are sold out.I find it odd that it has been in the market 3 years and just now experiencing shortages?

I was at the store today to pre-order Yakuza 3 and saw a couple of consoles behind the counter. Most of them bundles actually.
Maybe they're sold out because there lots of great/big games coming out around this month?

[Samanosuke Akechi]

The employees I talked to all mentioned God of War 3.Considering some big name exclusives are being released,I can see why some retailers have shortages.

Still,I wished sony was better prepared for this.I used to see them EVERYWHERE when I didn't want a ps3.Now that I do,they are sold out.I find it odd that it has been in the market 3 years and just now experiencing shortages?

I was at the store today to pre-order Yakuza 3 and saw a couple of consoles behind the counter. Most of them bundles actually.
Maybe they're sold out because there lots of great/big games coming out around this month?

Possibly.

I just find it odd that the ps3 has shortages in the states even after being 3 years out on the market.

Guess I'll just wait until April.