YUmakemygame wrote: Well to answer your question Henry... it's pretty bad here in America. Particularly in places like California or my city: New York.
Pardon me, but this is going to come out particularly harsh considering I'm talking about other women. I personally think feminists are the reason why there is so much separatism among the sexes. I usually find that most of the feminists I've have come across are women who absolutely refuse to groom themselves, respect potential suitors, or who are morbidly obese and blame men for not being attracted to them. They claim to be independent yet lean on the men to do everything, yet never take personal responsibility for anything they do. Some are very narcissistic and high maintenance and others look like Shane MacGowan. They never want to sacrifice anything in a relationship and wonder why no one will date them or marry them. And then they cry when they can't acquire a Diesel model who "sells his body to the masses" and who is possibly more attractive than they are. It just kills them that someone is somewhat in a higher station in life because they are utter failures and will do nothing about it.
And God forbid if you have 17% body fat versus 16%! Don't have a 12-pack? Oh, well aren't you a tubby little turd. Have a 12-pack? You're "manorexic". It's just the fact that these horrible degenerates are so undesirable that they create this nonsense cause to ease their loneliness while blaming the "man". This fight for equal wages here in NYC is very well misunderstood, especially since it has nothing to do with sex but a matter of insurance. Women tend to purchase more prophylactics and contraceptives versus males. Our bodies are designed differently, and have higher risks of certain diseases. And there is the matter of pregnancy. Some companies pay you for maternity leave and some don't. And they are well within their right to deny you such wages because you are in absentia; you're not generating revenue for the said business or company you are working for. This leftist ideology is weak and embarrassing to say in the least. Therefore I say: "Don't give me that. She don't make enough money she can quit."
I wouldn't put the blame on feminism regarding the separate attitudes between the sexes, but rather our basic human nature. In most species, the male competes with other males to mate with a female. Females are almost always the ones that are always guaranteed a mate and as a result, they just hang back and let the males do their thing. If a male proves to be "better" than the other males, the female still usually has the ability to choose if she wants that male to mate with her or not. With of my favorite creatures, the cuttlefish, the females have an ability to make with many males and choose which sperm can impregnate her. The wonderful thing is that she usually picks the male who outsmarts the other males over the males who fight each other... more on how that relates to humans later. There are a few species out there where the females compete for males (hyenas being one), but in those species the females exhibit the same aggressive behavior as males in other species (hell they even have a fake penis to rape the males if they want). The battle of sexes exist because, well, sex (not what bits and pieces you got, but you know, the bow chicka wow wow sex).
The wonderful thing about humans (and, our closest biological relatives, chimpanzees) is that our attitude towards sex is really dictated by society and biological urges. Many common chimpanzee societies are highly patriarchal, where the males fight each other for sex. Of course it isn't that simple, the males have the ability to rape and use cunning to mate with a female that is already guarded by a male. However, if you look at another species of chimpanzees, the bonobos, they are extremely matriarchal. The females pretty much give out sex to whoever asks (sometimes using sex to settle disputes between males), and as a result the males really don't give a shit about anything since they do not need to compete. The take away from this behavior is that chimp males are horny as hell. They will fight to have sex, but if they can freely get sex from any female with no strings attached, they will chill out and pretty much do nothing all day. The females, on the other hand, are pretty much guaranteed a mate, but when the males are not competing to mate, it gives the females more freedom to run things however they want.
I think humans exhibit a similar behavior. However it is a bit more complicated since we are far more intelligent than chimps. Biologically males are usually wired to be hornier than females. Our intelligence does allow some males to override their biological programming, but I this does not happen often I think. The numbers also back this up, 21% of men had over 15 sexual partners in their lifetime, while only a measly 8% of women had sex with over 15 males (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf, pages 18 and 20). Human females are more selective than males, which has many implications in society. I think there are males out there who want to be with those females that you mentioned, the ones who do not want to groom themselves to appear more attractive to men. However, since it is in a woman's nature to be selective, they do not want to sleep with those men. This selection bias causes some men to become sexually frustrated men, and they may become resentful towards women as a results (according to the stats, these men are in the minority, but that may change as society gets more liberal... more on that later). They may even think women have an easier life as an result, which fuels their sexism even further. A good way to balance things out is to force a man to stay with one woman, and make it extremely looked down upon if a woman sleeps with a man outside of the man she chose to be with. Sound familiar? People like to think that we are an enlightened culture today, but there have been previous societies that were extremely sexually permissive (e.g. the Etruscans and their influence on Rome). History repeats itself, and I think if the world doesn't completely recognize the fundamental differences between sexes, we will revert back to a patriarchal society where women have less freedom because of basic human nature.
There is also the possibility of western society becoming matriarchal. If that happens, females will either need to be like hyenas, competing against each other for the best males, or like bonobos and pretty much let the males just sleep around as they please. Considering males are physically stronger than females, the bonobo approach is more likely for humans. Because of well, you know, rape. The bonobo-type matriarchy is actually seen in human matriarchal societies, such as the Mosuo. Women keep the family land, and have rights over land, etc but many of them do not know who the father of their child is. However, that carries no stigma for them as men literally have no responsibilities and pretty much conserve most of their energy for having sex.
For true equality to be achieved, fair laws will need to be made regarding sexual behavior. However, this is impossible to do because humans want freedom. Absolute freedom includes the freedom to have sex with whoever you want. However, men want to have sex with many women, and women want to have sex with only the best of men. The end state of this means only the most attractive of men will get find mates while the rest of the men cannot do anything about it. This has many implications, polygamy will become the norm, many men will stay poor and women will latch on to men with the highest status to ensure a better life. The divide between the rich and poor will become greater over time, poor women will want to marry rich men to get out of poverty, and the poor men will treat poor women like crap so they can ensure they will have a mate. A revolution will start eventually, and if successful, the patriarchy will be reinstated. The western world is pretty much doomed to the cycle of a full patriarchy, going extremely liberal, and then back to a patriarchy. I suppose there is the possibility of switching over to a matriarchy, but men are typically the ones who take interest in more technological pursuits. I think that is more of a biological thing because men are wired to be more aggressive and calculating then women, again because our male ancestors needed to be in order to successfully mate. However that is pure speculation on my part as we never had a technologically advanced matriarchal society on earth.
If I am wrong and women are capable of being as sexually liberal as men, then the path the western world is taking regarding equality is great. However I do not think that is the case, considering modern feminism is actually a thing.
