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Re: Politics

Postby KiBa » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:26 pm

Hey, relax, compatriots. This is good news. The U.S. feds finally giving all power to the ISPs is actually the final nail in the coffin of centralized networks. Every hitherto lazy brain on the planet is now highly motivated to develop a distributive free network for all mankind, and 7 billion people already carry the nodes in their pockets. And so it shall be that in 10 years, ISPs will be kings of nothing because we'll all have long since upgraded to freedom. We're not our grandparents; we actually know how our technology works. The age of oppression is now nearly done.
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Re: Politics

Postby Mr. Frozen » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:07 am

MiTT3NZ wrote: However you've also got to consider the fact that the Internet is a vital component of modern day life. You actually have to have it to perform most essential admin-based tasks such as tax returns, job applications, and anything else that used to involve paper forms.


I sent my taxes in last year through the mail and it was fairly quick, all things considered. The US postal system is pretty much top notch considering the massive amount of land area they have to cover. I get what you are saying, though. Email is essential for white-collar jobs, though. My current employer only contacts me exclusively via e-mail so it really isn't an option to not have internet service at home.
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Re: Politics

Postby MiTT3NZ » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:14 pm

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Re: Politics

Postby Jerid'sRamenShop » Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:52 pm

MiTT3NZ wrote: This is fucking brilliant:

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KiBa wrote: Your questions presuppose that the concepts of 'truth' and 'reality' are given, or foundational, and that humans gaze upon the same reality together first, and then make decisions. But mind does not precede matter, so to speak. 'Truth' and 'reality' are functions of the brain, not the brain a function of reality. Therefore, nature could be generating a different world out of every brain, and that is why there is and always has been never-ending conflict. The people whose brains have been determined to know these facts are even now developing the technology to unify human consciousnesses. When they succeed and activate the process, our species' civil war will at last end, and there will be universal harmony among us till the end of the universe.

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Personally I would of taken the long way... :shock:

But that is actually how some people are. They hear a talk show host, or read a clipping in their favorite forum even though there is nothing factual or substantial in the slightest and goes beyond all common sense, but the audience eats it up and will take it to their grave if needs be. It goes beyond stupid.
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Re: Politics

Postby Sonikku » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:49 pm

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... 0b9ccdda3d

Senate passes rollback of banking rules enacted after financial crisis

If Sanders' words are any indication, it's a good bet the president will be rubber stamping this one once it sails through the House. I suppose we can expect another financial crisis down the road. It seems more and more difficult to be optimistic about the future these days.
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Re: Politics

Postby KiBa » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:05 am

One positive outcome of the above policy could be that when the banks attempt to defraud millions again by lending to people who cannot afford their monthly mortgage costs (among other loans), millions of renters and otherwise dispossessed homeless will finally get decent roofs over their heads and some acreage, while they wait for foreclosure. If the territorial majority can elect a true socialist federal government exactly at this crucial juncture, it is possible that government will bail out the people instead of the banks this time, resulting in a massive wide redistribution of wealth, which will instantaneously establish a new large middle class and reset the nation to a state of general prosperity as millions of families will become property owners, while only a few thousand usurers will lose their ill-gotten fortunes. Similarly, students could be bailed out by the same legislation. Combine these possible factors with Trump's strong-arm reduction of Chinese tariffs on American exports, and the current administration's policies could inadvertently destroy the rich and eliminate poverty in America -- as long as the socialists wait and win every branch of government at exactly the right time! ;-)
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Re: Politics

Postby MJMW » Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:00 am

I'm not a hardline ethno-nationalist and I'm certainly not a white supremacist, so please don't cancel my copy of Shenmue 3.
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Re: Politics

Postby MiTT3NZ » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:42 am

Everybody hates the alt-right, not just the left.
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Re: Politics

Postby KiBa » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:48 pm

Indeed. I'm x=0, y=negative infinity, and even I hate the alt-right. Because fascism and racists, and the fact that this man
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Re: Politics

Postby Sokora » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:58 pm

MJMW wrote: The people bombing the Middle East are the same people telling us that 'diversity is our strength' and that we should accept more 'refugees' (or else!). People initially voted for Trump because they thought he wouldn't be a slave to the Rothschilds like the others or create any more wars for Israel, but that turned out to be false.

I don't see why the left hate the alt-right so much. Because they're white nationalists? Well just think, without any of these wars there wouldn't be so much immigration into Europe disturbing the natural order of things. What alienates the left from the alt-right is that they're more socially conservative, which is a shame considering they share the same mutual enemy.

Socialism, capitalism, who cares? The problem is the deep state.


You sound confused.

Are you trying to blame this potential war on the left?
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Re: Politics

Postby MJMW » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:45 am

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Re: Politics

Postby johnjohnbrem » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:26 pm

This is something that I've always wondered : are Shenmue fans liberals or conservatives? Is the game more appealing to conservative people or is it the other way around? Generally speaking, of course.
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Re: Politics

Postby KiBa » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:09 am

^ We're monarchists trying to restore the Qing Dynasty in China, the Bonapartes in Europe.

There's no such thing as liberals and conservatives. There are only surviving adventurers, among whom some will tell you otherwise.


MJMW wrote:You haven't explained why you hate the alt-right, you just throw the usual buzzwords like 'fascist' and 'racist'. Why is it fascist to want to preserve your nation's identity? Isn't it fascist to deny those people a right to their identity?


Because a nation's identity isn't preserved; it's made in the here and now as it actually is. The purpose of all legitimate government is to safeguard the self-evident rights of and administer a system of justice for all the people living within the territory under its charge (all the people, whereas citizens enjoy the privileges afforded by the various machines of government to effect the general will of those organically tied to the nation), not to regulate who may travel and migrate where, when, and why.

As you know, fascism is a political theory that aims to establish total control over the means of production of a territory by a council of corporate owners in official collusion with state-sponsored labor unions. It can only achieve such control precisely by determining who may travel and do business, where, when, and why. Laws that attempt to unreasonably regulate freedom of commerce and movement are incompatible with the de facto American traditional constitution as well as the written constitution of 1789. Classical liberal political theory is the opposite of fascism, promoting free business, freedom of movement, and self-government.

Many self-proclaimed "alt-right" organizations have repeatedly and explicitly called for laws that regulate the right of citizens, foreigners, and migrants, to freely travel, trade, make contracts, by reporting falsehoods such as migrants in and of themselves affecting elections, undercutting local workers, or straining the resources of North America. All of these concerns are not supported by the facts. U.S. elections have remarkably few incidents of fraudulent voting (and remarkably few citizens choose to vote in the first place); local workers are not undercut by migrants, but by their neighbors who own local means of production and choose not to employ citizens (the governments of the U.S. could deter migration by enforcing existing laws that favor the employment of and ownership by citizens, or support cooperatives, etc); American resources would not nearly be strained by even a billion new workers (were American resources stretched so thin as to be seriously affected by ~15 million migrants, the reproduction of citizens would be a major problem). Furthermore, many self-proclaimed "alt-right" organizations and spokesmen have repeatedly and explicitly supported white supremacy, thereby unreasonably and illiberally tying race to the concept of a nation. This is a clear rejection of the classical liberal principle that a legitimate government ought only act as administrator for all people living within its territory, and not function as a regulative authority that determines a preeminent race, gender, type, or whatever. The liberal principle of equality before the law places an implicit limit on any state against legislation that treats unequally people living or traveling within its jurisdiction.

To put this idea into context, the problem with mass migration is emphatically not that migrants are entering and working in the U.S. freely, but that there is no reciprocity enjoyed by U.S. citizens in those migrants' countries of origin. Classical liberalism would compel the federal government of the U.S. to always endeavor to work with governments throughout the world toward opening up and safeguarding all lands for American business ownership and labor. Opportunity doesn't grow behind walls; fencing in the world is a recipe for poverty and stagnation -- the late Soviet Union's demise should teach anyone that.

President Trump is not an "alt-right" president, by the above definitions. But the term "alt-right" means many things, just as the "left" means many things, depending on who you ask. Trump was elected for one reason, at most two: a majority of the American electorate never supported the Mexican Wall, as evidenced by every reputable poll since the question has been asked. Americans and Mexicans would rather build a huge beautiful Mall on the Rio Grande and get rich together, wipe out the drug cartels together, and work together to produce and profitably sell more goods than the EU and China. Rather, Trump was elected in order to do as much damage to the bureaucratic Party machine as possible in four years, because most Americans feel the Parties no longer represent anyone's will, never mind the general will. Just ask Bernie supporters about that. Trump is indeed causing catastrophic damage to the establishment, which will create an unique opportunity to fix everything when the smoke clears. The cost of revolution? The sick may not get the healthcare they need, the old may lose security, the young may lose benefits that put them at a disadvantage on the global market. All of these costs suck, and they are why I don't support revolution, but gradual change. Trump was secondarily elected to establish fair trade with China by successfully waging a trade war by raising tariffs in order to force China back to the negotiating table. The cost? Possibly sparking a world war or another revolution in China that will destabilize Asia again for fifty years.

Radicals are radicals. There is no such thing as an "alternate right". There's not even a "right" or "left". There's people who want to help other people, and some who don't. There's people who don't care about the destruction they may cause, and there's people who do. Alternate anything is essentially going to be a radical movement, and radical movements are irresponsible and illiberal, and are openly hostile to the ideal of self-government, in favor of total government. Anytime a group demands that a government -- under their exclusive control -- decides who the people are -- rather than the people, the state -- they are advocating for the separation of people and state. That's why you'll rarely see a political party call for referendums, or if they do, the results will be as tightly regulated as nearly every large election or ballot question -- as improbable as it may seem, voters everywhere, every time, at every territorial scale, no matter the decision, miraculously resolve into our banal 21st century ~50%/50% "democratic" result.

Does that clarify my opinion? I haven't text-walled in years. Really cleans you out, but it also chafes, which sensation I detest.


TL;DR: Shenmue teaches children a lot about virtue and politics. For example, Ryo is able to travel freely from Yokosuka, Japan, to British Hong Kong, with minimal red tape, whereupon he is able to quickly become an employed resident with the aid of local charities. He then spends his time helping out the community, while pursuing his own dreams. That's what life is supposed to be -- an honorable adventure where we belong wherever we can contribute, and everyone recognizes themselves in each other.

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Re: Politics

Postby MJMW » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:41 pm

We all know why people voted to leave the EU, despite what the media tries to tell us. Issues about the economy were merely being used to distract us from the main problem. Economy this, economy that, it's all about money. The truth is people just don't want to become a minority in their own country.

I know that people subconsciously want to be with their own. I have relatives who will chant for open borders saying things like "it's the only way we'll end racism!" but then complain behind closed doors about there being no white people! Fuck you! You're the racists, not me. I'm just being honest.
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Re: Politics

Postby MiTT3NZ » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:47 pm

Yes, the reason black neighbourhoods exist in America is simply because black people want to live with black people... :roll:
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