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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby sand4fish » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:41 pm

shengoro86 wrote:
SickOctopus wrote: Not sure if this is worth getting our hopes up over, but according to this Eurogamer article, Bluepoint's next title will be a remake of a larger scope than Shadow of the Colossus.

Whatever it turns out to be, I'm sure it'll be great, but could it possibly be Shenmue? Surely not.

http://www.eurogamer.net/amp/digitalfoundry-2018-bluepoints-next-game-is-another-remake


My money is that it will be ICO


I'd agree if not for the comment that Bluepoint gave about this remake being bigger than SOTC. Ico is neither bigger in scope or popularity than the latter game IMO. My money actually would go for a remake of MGS1,
given it'll be the game's 20th anniversary later this year and Bluepoint having worked on the remaster of all the subsequent games of the series. Or the rumored remake of Demon's Souls, simply because of the strong signs pointing to it like ESRB rating the game again, Atlus shutting down the servers of the PS3 game and the recent announcement of DS remastered.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Sappharad » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:23 pm

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shengoro86 wrote:My money is that it will be ICO

I'd agree if not for the comment that Bluepoint gave about this remake being bigger than SOTC. Ico is neither bigger in scope or popularity than the latter game IMO. My money actually would go for a remake of MGS1,
given it'll be the game's 20th anniversary later this year and Bluepoint having worked on the remaster of all the subsequent games of the series. Or the rumored remake of Demon's Souls, simply because of the strong signs pointing to it like ESRB rating the game again, Atlus shutting down the servers of the PS3 game and the recent announcement of DS remastered.

I would consider Ico to be bigger than SOTC. Maybe not in surface area, but it's a longer game with greater scope and given it began on the PS1 and had some dated elements, would be a bigger endeavor to remaster. I'm vastly in the minority here, but out of the 3 games in the trilogy I actually enjoyed SOTC the least. It was just "run to the next boss and fight it" with the only puzzles being how to beat the bosses. Ico involved actual mandatory exploration and puzzle solving, which is why I enjoyed it more. The Last Guardian had its issues from a control standpoint, but it brought back the same kind of exploration and puzzle solving that Ico had, which is why I really liked it.

I don't think it's Shenmue either, but I also don't think it's MGS related. MGS was already remastered once, for the Gamecube. The Gamecube version was my introduction to the series and I've bought every game since. Konami's actions during the late development of MGS5, along with their statements that they didn't feel console gaming had a future, followed by the garbage that was MGSurvive, just tells me that I don't think they're willing to fund a third-party studio to remaster one of their games.

The Demon's Souls suggestion has the most logical arguments to back it up, IMO.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby shredingskin » Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:34 am

It's now announced one of the games that got leaked last year (megadrive collection)
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Let's Get Sweaty » Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:04 am

Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine Sega would re-release its own 16-bit library on current consoles. I can't wait till April 2017 to reacquaint myself.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby south carmain » Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:12 am

Let's Get Sweaty wrote: Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine Sega would re-release its own 16-bit library on current consoles. I can't wait till April 2017 to reacquaint myself.

They are truly the pioneers of the video game industry. Some would call such an unpredictable move "irrational", but SEGA's forward-thinking is truly unmatched and this experimentation will surely help expand the video game market in the future leading to their long term success.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Ziming » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:03 pm

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby BlueMue » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:55 pm

While checking back some footage of the 70 Person Free Battle that I recorded I noticed that the game replaces the low-poly Ryo from the fight 1 frame early for the following cutscene. This made an interesting comparsion gif.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Mr357 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:30 pm

BlueMue wrote: While checking back some footage of the 70 Person Free Battle that I recorded I noticed that the game replaces the low-poly Ryo from the fight 1 frame early for the following cutscene. This made an interesting comparsion gif.

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That sort of thing is incredibly common in Shenmue II, especially when sparring with Jianmin since cutscenes occur in the middle of fights. Another similar case in Shenmue I is when Ryo's jacket changes shape during the lunch break and end of work cutscenes in disc 3.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby ChiYuanHa » Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:12 am

Just signed up to ask why in the world Ziming of all people got BANNED. This is ludicrous #-o

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby BlueMue » Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:42 am

Mr357 wrote:That sort of thing is incredibly common in Shenmue II, especially when sparring with Jianmin since cutscenes occur in the middle of fights. Another similar case in Shenmue I is when Ryo's jacket changes shape during the lunch break and end of work cutscenes in disc 3.

Yeah you can see this in a lot of places with various things happening. When they have to replace or reposition things without a large enough break in the scene or from game to cutscene it has to happen somehow.
I just found this one especially worthy to look at since the low-poly Ryo for the battle is a well known thing but it's hard to make out just how much blockier and less detailed he really is.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby sand4fish » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:03 am

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby vnisanian2001 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:31 pm

If you did everything from December 3 to 17, and didn't spend your money on extras (phone calls, soda machines, Tomato Mart, games, move scrolls, etc.), how much Yen would you end up with, and what would that transfer to on your Shenmue 2 DC save file?

I'm thinking the most you could end up with what would be about 56,816円, which would translate to 1,894 HKD. The Manager always gives you 2,000円 on your Training Day, and I do not believe you can get any higher than 5,250円 (without glitching), 7,200円, 6,300円, and 9,000円 on your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th workdays respectively.

Here's what I got:

December 03, 1986: 9,800円 + 500円 = 10,300円
December 04, 1986: 10,300円 + 500円 = 10,800円
December 05, 1986: 10,800円 + 500円 = 11,300円
December 06, 1986: 11,300円 + 500円 - 160円 - 160円 = 11,480円
December 07, 1986: 11,480円 + 500円 - 160円 - 160円 = 11,660円
December 08, 1986: 11,660円 + 36,502円 + 500円 + 39,634円 - 69,000円 = 19,296円
December 09, 1986: 19,296円 + 500円 - 160円 - 160円 = 19,476円
December 10, 1986: 19,476円 + 500円 + 2,000円 - 160円 - 160円 = 21,656円
December 11, 1986: 21,656円 + 500円 + 6,000円 - 160円 - 160円 = 27,836円
December 12, 1986: 27,836円 + 500円 + 5,250円 - 160円 - 160円 = 33,266円
December 13, 1986: 33,266円 + 500円 + 7,200円 - 160円 - 160円 = 40,646円
December 14, 1986: 40,646円 + 500円 + 6,300円 - 160円 - 160円 = 47,126円
December 15, 1986: 47,126円 + 500円 + 9,000円 - 10円 - 160円 - 160円 = 56,296円
December 16, 1986: 56,296円 + 500円 - 160円 - 160円 = 56,476円
December 17, 1986: 56,476円 + 500円 - 160円 = 56,816円

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby sand4fish » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:36 pm

Just came across a very old tv show focused on videogames (and recently uploaded on Youtube) with a Shenmue segment on it. There's a small interview with Yu Suzuki and even a snippet of him doing martial arts choreography for the game! The show refers Yu as Game Guru for Sega Japan! :D Gold.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Mr357 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:40 am

sand4fish wrote: Just came across a very old tv show focused on videogames (and recently uploaded on Youtube) with a Shenmue segment on it. There's a small interview with Yu Suzuki and even a snippet of him doing martial arts choreography for the game! The show refers Yu as Game Guru for Sega Japan! :D Gold.

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Great find, sand4fish! I suppose Yu Suzuki's comment about Americans was an allusion to the poor sales that Shenmue and the Dreamcast had seen in Japan. According to the video description, this episode aired in May of 2000, but even so I'm surprised at the amount of Shenmue II footage they had. I'd never heard of this show before now, and I was pleasantly surprised to see Tommy Tallarico on it.
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