Random Shenmue Thoughts

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Amir » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:22 pm

Zoltor wrote: To Amir:

What I would like to know, are who is so called friends at SOJ are, because I find it hard to believe people had nothing nice to say about working on it.

His statement might've made sense if the development team was super small, but it wasn't. Every person had a "specific" task to do, but the way he makes it sound like, each person had to do like 50 people worth of the work or that Yu was a slave driver(lol which I think we all know, Yu couldn't act like that, if his life depended on it).

Nevermind the fact that the games the produced, ended up being so special, that even 14-16 years later, people are still talking about them. I don't buy that people involved in such a huge project, that led to the creation of two very special games, would have nothing nice to say about working on such.


A lot of great projects take their toll on the people who work on them; any James Cameron film, the latest Mad Max, any sizable video game released in recent years that has had to meet a certain release date... In the case of Shenmue as well they were doing things that were never done before. I doubt Shenmue III's development will be quite so strained.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Yokosuka » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:55 am

Amir wrote:I assume by 3D he means 2D from a first-person view?


Like which similar game ? Racing games can be suited for sprites (Turbo, Outrun) but all FPS/first-person RPGs used real 3D calculations, didn't they ?
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Amir » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:05 am

Yokosuka wrote:
Amir wrote:I assume by 3D he means 2D from a first-person view?


Like which similar game ? Racing games can be suited for sprites (Turbo, Outrun) but all FPS/first-person RPGs used real 3D calculations, didn't they ?


I was thinking along the lines of this:

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Yokosuka » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:07 am

I guess so. Even Sega GT vmu only used a top down view.

But I just remember that Virtua Tennis 1 & 2 used real 3D ! That was pretty impressive although pointless. It was only a mirror screen of what you're doing with the Dreamcast game as you couldn't play it with the VMU alone. This would probably have pushed the battery too hard.

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You can see some games with first person view here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICnUFWOxWok
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Switch » Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:20 am

Amir wrote:
Zoltor wrote: To Amir:

What I would like to know, are who is so called friends at SOJ are, because I find it hard to believe people had nothing nice to say about working on it.

His statement might've made sense if the development team was super small, but it wasn't. Every person had a "specific" task to do, but the way he makes it sound like, each person had to do like 50 people worth of the work or that Yu was a slave driver(lol which I think we all know, Yu couldn't act like that, if his life depended on it).

Nevermind the fact that the games the produced, ended up being so special, that even 14-16 years later, people are still talking about them. I don't buy that people involved in such a huge project, that led to the creation of two very special games, would have nothing nice to say about working on such.


A lot of great projects take their toll on the people who work on them; any James Cameron film, the latest Mad Max, any sizable video game released in recent years that has had to meet a certain release date... In the case of Shenmue as well they were doing things that were never done before. I doubt Shenmue III's development will be quite so strained.


On the subject of Yu's management style, make sure to check out the Making of Shenmue NHK video (which will be up very soon complete with subtitles) which has some footage of actual developer meetings. It's interesting to see Yu being a lot more demanding during those that you might think from his laid-back image these days.

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Giorgio » Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:29 am

First time I watch this video. It has those CG portraits of Akira Yuki, too, which give a glimse as him being the predecessor (in VF:RPG) of Ryo Hazuki:

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Sonoshee » Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:57 pm

Amir wrote:
Zoltor wrote: To Amir:

What I would like to know, are who is so called friends at SOJ are, because I find it hard to believe people had nothing nice to say about working on it.

His statement might've made sense if the development team was super small, but it wasn't. Every person had a "specific" task to do, but the way he makes it sound like, each person had to do like 50 people worth of the work or that Yu was a slave driver(lol which I think we all know, Yu couldn't act like that, if his life depended on it).

Nevermind the fact that the games the produced, ended up being so special, that even 14-16 years later, people are still talking about them. I don't buy that people involved in such a huge project, that led to the creation of two very special games, would have nothing nice to say about working on such.


A lot of great projects take their toll on the people who work on them; any James Cameron film, the latest Mad Max, any sizable video game released in recent years that has had to meet a certain release date... In the case of Shenmue as well they were doing things that were never done before. I doubt Shenmue III's development will be quite so strained.


One only has to look at articles covering the development of Panzer Dragoon Saga...
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby GYO6161 » Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:00 am

Man, Funhaus videos of shenmue are so painful to watch, the comments are also suicide inducing, these channels really shouldnt cover games like Shenmue, it just puts a bad image to the game for potential newcomers.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Let's Get Sweaty » Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:36 pm

A semi-interesting, okay quasi-interesting, piece of trivia just caught my eye.

6423921 dollars currently raised through crowdfunding.
640943 posts made on the Shenmue Dojo forum to date.

If members had been charged a dime per post (and miraculously paid it), the forum would still not have raised as much over the years as Shenmue III has received in around two and a half months.

Just puts things into perspective in some kind of way.
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Amir » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:09 am

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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Kiske » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:14 am

Amir wrote: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/663616457750806528


Pleasepleasepleaseplease....


Noting to add but "Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease....!" [-o<

Just noticed Adam Boyes Twitter banner. It's nice of him!
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Amir » Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:49 am

Kiske wrote:
Amir wrote: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/663616457750806528


Pleasepleasepleaseplease....


Noting to add but "Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease....!" [-o<

Just noticed Adam Boyes Twitter banner. It's nice of him!


Yeah, he's had that it like that since E3, man's obviously got good taste ;)

Also: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/663233462086729729

Gio's codename for Shenmue III was "Ramen", so....

...he could just have been eating ramen :P
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Kiske » Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:01 am

Amir wrote:
Kiske wrote:
Amir wrote: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/663616457750806528


Pleasepleasepleaseplease....


Noting to add but "Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease....!" [-o<

Just noticed Adam Boyes Twitter banner. It's nice of him!


Yeah, he's had that it like that since E3, man's obviously got good taste ;)

Also: https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/663233462086729729

Gio's codename for Shenmue III was "Ramen", so....

...he could just have been eating ramen :P


I remember Gamespot "The Point" video with Gio Corsi interview.
He said he loves "Ramen" and incidentally that it was Shenmue 3 code name along with "Ebisu".

So... let's hope they had Ramen in Ebisu, Tokyo! #Believe
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby Giorgio » Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:25 pm

I noticed that this is a real door, after many years:
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Re: Random Shenmue Thoughts

Postby ShenGCH » Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:38 pm

Giorgio wrote: I noticed that this is a real door, after many years:
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I've never, ever seen that door in use before. I really like the attention to detail in that it doesn't just lead straight into the back of Asia Travel Company, but a small store room.

Thanks for the screenshot!
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