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Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:23 am
by BlueCreeperBoy12
It's a bit stupid. Think about it. it deletes itself after you load. Rediculus. Also if you use it then load, then do something wrong but forget how it works, then quit to load again you can't load it. Does anyone know how to use it effectively?

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:40 am
by BlueMue
The only effective use it ever has is when you have to quit the game in a pinch and want to come back to it later.

You have to save in Ryo's room for any proper save. This is something they'd have to change in an HD port and one of the things I really want to ask Yu Suzuki why.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:19 am
by drunkensailor
they solved this in shenmue 2 though

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:50 am
by JaySw34
When I played Shenmue as a young kid it took me a few screw ups to actually understand that using the resume feature would only load once. It would also be my only way of saving the game. Lost my progress a few times before I finally understood lol. Shenmue 2s save system was so much better.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:04 am
by shengoro86
The resume feature was there if you needed to leave in an emergency. The save structure is made that way to force you to go back to Ryo's home so that you may experience the game world even more. Its inline with the reason why the controls are the way they are. It is also systematically making you need to experience the game world.

Dont think of it as saving the game, think of it as Ryo returning home to reflect on the day.

I asked Suzuki this question back in like '07 when I met him and that is what he told me.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:14 am
by BlueMue
shengoro86 wrote: Dont think of it as saving the game, think of it as Ryo returning home to reflect on the day.

I asked Suzuki this question back in like '07 when I met him and that is what he told me.

What? Wow... I've wanted an answer to this question for so long and you just happen to have it.
Wish I had heard this earlier. I guess we just always missed the proper thread. :mrgreen:

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:15 am
by shengoro86
I never made a thread on it. Yu Suzuki will be on twitch tonight so maybe some can ask him again to see if we can get a recording of it.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:16 am
by JaySw34
shengoro86 wrote:

I asked Suzuki this question back in like '07 when I met him and that is what he told me.


Wow that's so awesome. What else did you ask him?

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:22 am
by BlueMue
shengoro86 wrote: I never made a thread on it. Yu Suzuki will be on twitch tonight so maybe some can ask him again to see if we can get a recording of it.

I've already suggested this very question about the restricted saving today. That's the funny thing.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:13 pm
by Miles Prower
Not sure I entirely agree with the reasoning for the restrictive saving system, but it's nice to finally know why :)

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:22 pm
by Mr357
On the contrary, I think it was a good feature. If you had to quit, you could do so at (almost) any time without losing progress, but it couldn't be abused like in Shenmue 2 and most RPG's. In Shenmue 2, I would go to a Big or Small stand in Fortune's Pier which had a maximum bet of $500, save my game right there, and then play until I made as much money as I wanted. If I lost I could just restart my Dreamcast and try again, but if I won I could overwrite the save with one that now had more money, thus securing my winnings. Yes, it comes down to player choice, but I feel as if that was an easy way out of challenge the game was trying to provide. I did the same thing in order to reduce time spent on the Ghost Hall building, but I don't feel bad about that.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:11 am
by drunkensailor
Mr357 wrote: On the contrary, I think it was a good feature. If you had to quit, you could do so at (almost) any time without losing progress, but it couldn't be abused like in Shenmue 2 and most RPG's. In Shenmue 2, I would go to a Big or Small stand in Fortune's Pier which had a maximum bet of $500, save my game right there, and then play until I made as much money as I wanted. If I lost I could just restart my Dreamcast and try again, but if I won I could overwrite the save with one that now had more money, thus securing my winnings. Yes, it comes down to player choice, but I feel as if that was an easy way out of challenge the game was trying to provide. I did the same thing in order to reduce time spent on the Ghost Hall building, but I don't feel bad about that.

you could cheat the gambling thing just as much with a resume feature :roll:

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:15 pm
by Mr357
drunkensailor wrote:
Mr357 wrote: On the contrary, I think it was a good feature. If you had to quit, you could do so at (almost) any time without losing progress, but it couldn't be abused like in Shenmue 2 and most RPG's. In Shenmue 2, I would go to a Big or Small stand in Fortune's Pier which had a maximum bet of $500, save my game right there, and then play until I made as much money as I wanted. If I lost I could just restart my Dreamcast and try again, but if I won I could overwrite the save with one that now had more money, thus securing my winnings. Yes, it comes down to player choice, but I feel as if that was an easy way out of challenge the game was trying to provide. I did the same thing in order to reduce time spent on the Ghost Hall building, but I don't feel bad about that.

you could cheat the gambling thing just as much with a resume feature :roll:


No you couldn't. Once you save, it forces you to instantly turn off the game, meaning you can't reset any closer than the last time you saved from your room.

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:58 pm
by drunkensailor
ah yes I forgot about that

Re: Resume feature

PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:25 pm
by Taren Fox
Could someone explain the resume feature to me? For whatever reason, I don't remember it at all.