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Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:57 pm
by Yama
I've been wanting to do this for a while now. The results are better than I ever had expected, so I'd like to share with everyone.

A big discussion when talking about Shenmue and current technology is how to properly display the image. Some connect via VGA to a monitor which is the easiest solution and looks great. Most want to play on their TV's however, which as time goes on gets a little more tricky. I've done various methods including VGA on monitor, VGA to component on a CRT 4:3 HDTV, VGA pixel for pixel on an XBR-3, VGA to HDMI through a HD third party scaler (the one Adam used) and finally now this method which I can confirm absolutely demolishes every other way I've ever viewed this game.

So the first thing to know is you'll need to properly upscale the image, otherwise it'll look horrible. To properly upscale into HD (while retaining the correct aspect ratio) a third party scaler is required, which are niche and quite expensive. They get the job done, though obviously don't push the envelope any. The image quality is better than displaying pixel for pixel.

4K UHD is the same principal, though thanks to new technology becomes a bit easier (just more expensive, but is an investment). The two best scalers on the market as of today are the X-Reality PRO by Sony and the Revelation by SHARP. I won't go into major detail, but both are comparable and take different steps to achieving the same end goal.

Because the X-Reality PRO is an internal scaler, we're actually going to want to convert the VGA signal to HDMI raw without upscaling. From there the X-Reality PRO will do the rest and by the rest, I mean this. Do take a glance as it'll show the amount of tech the engine uses to upscale an image, something a third party scaler simply isn't capable of.

The end result is this and I don't think much more could be expected of a game developed from the late 90's onward, especially with a rendering resolution of 640x480. The X900B in general hides jaggies particularly well, but what stands out to me the most is the color range and depth. Granted this is a testament as to how far technology has come, but it also says a lot about the production value of Shenmue. It truly was ahead of it's time.

Here is the game (both Passport and Disc 1) running:

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The equipment (though the most important tech such as the scaler is internal):

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Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:00 pm
by JaySw34
Wow that's absolutely gorgeous!

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 pm
by Peter
Those are just insane! What????

Do we really need a full blown HD revamp of the series which could take up to a year? Just stick these on the PS3 store!

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:52 pm
by Yama
Peter wrote: Those are just insane! What????

Do we really need a full blown HD revamp of the series which could take up to a year? Just stick these on the PS3 store!

Agreed, pretty much everything AM2 creates ages like fine wine.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:53 pm
by Sean
A lot has been said, as of late especially, regarding the high production costs of the series and many in the gaming MSM have been using that fact as a opportunity to take baseless pop shots. With screens like these however, it is clear that there was a clear reason why the game was produced in the manner in which it was and we are still reaping the benefits to this day.

The fact that a game as old as S1 looks this good on the most modern tech, from the sheer color saturation to the crisp image quality is a testament to how ahead of time and advanced the game (and the development behind it) truly was.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:27 pm
by squall
Wow. =P~

Edit: And I'm just watching the videos at 1440, since I can't handle the 4k.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:56 pm
by brad86
Jesus! those images look fantastic. Really nice set-up you've got going on there.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:03 pm
by Yama
Moved a few posts, let's keep this thread on topic. This is for upscaling the actual Dreamcast releases, not rendering via emulation. There are threads for that already, feel free to continue there. Thanks!

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:33 pm
by code l name
Very impressive stuff Yama. Can you take more screenshots of environments in both Shenmue 1 and 2 for us?

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:38 pm
by Yama
code l name wrote: Very impressive stuff Yama. Can you take more screenshots of environments in both Shenmue 1 and 2 for us?

Yeah, will do as I play through them both.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:54 pm
by alimn
Looks astonishing! =D>

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:28 pm
by Raithos
That looks amazing! I've up scaled before, but this is on another level.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:39 pm
by Axm
That looks great!

So what you're saying is, because the TV has X-Reality Pro, what my TV has too, all ill need to do is have a VGA-HDMI converter that will transmit the signal to the TV with an option to not upscale because the TV doing the upscaling does a better job?
If so then great. What converter box do you have then? The ones i've seen so far dont really have any switches on them to control the output.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:02 pm
by Riku Rose
I got one of the Sony 4K TV's that upscales and have to say Blu Rays look amazing. Haven't tried a game older then something on the PS3/360 era so would be interesting to see how some older games look in person. You never really see how good it looks when someone takes a photo of the TV so I imagine it looks even more amazing when you're in the room.

Re: Shenmue Properly Upscaled to 4K

PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:10 pm
by Yama
Riku Rose wrote:I got one of the Sony 4K TV's that upscales

Awesome. Which model?

Riku Rose wrote:so I imagine it looks even more amazing when you're in the room.

Yeah, for sure. It looks even better in motion honestly, especially seeing as the entire X series hides jaggies incredibly well.