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Postby JalceW » Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:50 pm

LanDC wrote:Ok, now check this out! It's an unused scene from disc 4 where Shenhua dies! It actually has voices too. An earthquake jolts the ground causing Ryo to injure his knee, and a tree to fall on Shenhua! There's even some blood!

Hmm, could that be a substitute bad ending for after you meet Shenhua on Disc 4? :?

BTW, I didn't see any blood...
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Postby LanDC » Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:56 pm

No I really don't think so. The scene isn't really even finished in a way. The voice files don't even play. I had to take them out of the sound file myself, record them seperate, and add them in the scene myself.
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Postby Zezerith » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:11 pm

You sure thats death ont just the tree falling in front of Shen Hua and splitting the two up not killing her.

EDIT: Looking at it closer its hard to tell wether she's being crushed or on the other side of the tree.
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Postby LanDC » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:22 pm

Can't you see the blood? I'd say it smashed her.
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Postby paulus » Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:31 pm

Awesome finding.

Why did they leave this on the disc?
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Postby KoroshiyaIchi » Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:55 pm

This is actually a great find! Are you sure it wasn't an alternate ending to Shenmue II?

Where do you find these cutscenes on the CD? I really want to try my hand at hacking into the Dreamcast GD-ROMs. Any ideas how to?
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Postby LanDC » Fri Jul 16, 2004 9:18 pm

I can only assume they meant this for an alternate bad ending. It can't be on there though. Not only has noone seem it, but it's not in the Japanese guide. The Japanese guides even included things like how to meet Mr. Yukawa in Shenmue 1, and told that Tentei is the leader of the Chiyoumen. Japanese guides also had profiles for Shenmue II characters. I think if they have all that detail, they'd have told about this.

The cutscenes are in with everything else. It's really hard to describe...
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Postby KoroshiyaIchi » Sat Jul 17, 2004 9:35 am

I think the Japanese guide didn't include it, because it really isn't very significant. Looking at the clip closer, I think that the tree only seperates Shen Hua and Ryo. The shadow infront of the fallen tree may have been mistaken for blood. To be honest I don't think it crushed Shen Hua at all.

It is probably a cutscene on the way to Bailu Village, an obstacle that they have to overcome much similar to the landslide.. Ryo may be lead to believe that Shen Hua is dead, and as a side objective has to find her in the woods? Even so it probably would have been included in the guide if this was the case.
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Postby ys » Sat Jul 17, 2004 12:47 pm

Damn, maybe this (Ryo believing Shenhua was dead, having to find out etc.) was in the original story but they had to remove it to shorten the game a bit?
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Postby LanDC » Sat Jul 17, 2004 1:38 pm

I really think this was an alternate bad ending and that she did get hit. First of all, the file folder that contains this scene is a much higher number than the rest of the scene folders (just like the used bad ending is) and that's got to be blood. Look at these pics...

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See where I circled there? It's red, it's not from the tree, and it's not the ground. Also, those tree limbs were right on her head. She was not behind it. Also, I'm pretty sure the area they are in is the one part in Guilin where they have to climb. The part where Shenhua holds out her hand to help Ryo, but he doesn't accept. So it's not like it's a future area.
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Postby ryohayabusa » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:02 pm

i don't agree.in my opinion it's much more simple.do u remember when u run after shenhua?if u you continue to fail qte,it'll start to rain and if u continue to fail again a bad scene appears.once shenhua says "it's raining too hard i can't see the usual path" another time ryo falls and can't go after shenhua.maybe the one lan dc found is an alternate scene of those ones.but in my opinion it has nothing to do with shenhua's death
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Postby LanDC » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:07 pm

ryohayabusa wrote:i don't agree.in my opèinion it's much more simple.do u remember when u run after shenhua?u you continue to fial qte,i'll start to rain and if u continue to fail again a bad scene appears.it's usually something like"it's raining too hard i can't see the usual path" or when ryo fall and can't go after shenhua.maybe the one lan dc found is an alternate scene of those ones.but in my opinion it has nothing to do with shenhua's death


That's what I mean. That can be consitered a bad ending. I didn't mean Shenhua's death as in her OFFICIAL death, but she is dying in this scene whether it's a bad ending or not.
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Postby ryohayabusa » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:15 pm

said in this way,it can be more probable.but i never saw any blood in shenmue.also it would be of real bad taste make die shenhua smashed...
i don't think that idea never passed in programmers' mind.the tree which falls ,only block ryo's way.maybe.perhaps. :? :? :?
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Postby LanDC » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:17 pm

There hasn't been any blood in Shenmue. Probably one big reason they decided not to use it.
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Postby Mestre Ziming » Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:56 pm

Good find, LanDC.

There is a bad scene also if you take much time to get in shenhua's house but i don't remenber that scene very well, but i think that i tree fall also but i don't remenber of her being smashed :? . Next time that i'll play the game i need to check this better.
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