Shenmue Dojo

Gangsta Ren wrote:

Riku Rose wrote: The Walking Dead is one of the biggest properties at the moment with the TV show and comics being some of the most popular in their respective mediums, that's partly why the game sells so well. I like Shenmue but the story in the game is far from good. The writing in the game is nowhere near as good as something like The Walking Dead game which is seen by most as one of the best written games ever and something that people will say inspired games in years to come. People are going to be more interested in a game from a known brand about zombies like The Walking Dead than Shenmue the weird Japanese game where you open draws for 3 hours and then maybe get into a fight. The idea that Shenmue could 'smash' The Walking Dead is ridicules.

Also they're cheap to make and are only 2 hour episodes made by groups of about 30-40 people. Shenmue is much more open and would require a lot more work to make then something like Walking Dead pushing up the costs. Episodic games work for cheaply made games but something like Shenmue would have to be a retail game unless we got a different type of game entirely.

I agree Shenmue 3 wouldn't smash the Walking Dead, it's an entertainment juggernaut . I've played the first season and the 2 existing chapters of Season 2. It won't inspire ANY developers for years to come. I like the game, but please, it's barely a game. The parts I love the most about it are the parts that Ape Shenmue. The "drawer opening " you maligned do much looks directly copied in the Walking dead , and I love it. Tactile interaction with the 3D environment. The QTE are obvious Shenmue rip offs. Where the game is inferior is any portion that involves realtime action. The shooting mechanic is horrendous . It's unbelievably bad and poorly implemented. They had two years to get this to a professional level. The shooting is sub-par to flash games. It would be more of a "game " if it had Free Battle system where you kill hordes of Zombies. Your choices also turn out to be irrelevant, as they don't affect the end of the game. All it affects is who on the cast lives or dies. How about multiple branching endings next time. I could care less who on the cast lives or dies. As for the writing, meh, I've seen better. That new villain is too cartoonish , too much like the comic book version of the Governor. They are basically out of ideas and keep copying and pasting the same character types to different people. Nutty villain, unfaithful wife who gets knocked up by someone else, human marauders, same old sh--.

As for Messiah's idea about kick starter, that would never work. Yu Suzuki already thought of that. Even popular games like Mighty Number 9 only garnered $3.4 million. Shenmue would probably need $30 million or more. Never gonna happen.

Messiah wrote: Again, why do people think Yu would need 30 million dollars? Shenmue was expensive because of all the research and how ahead of the times it was. It needn't be that now.

AnimeGamer183 wrote: I had the honor of watching the postmortem with 2 veteran members of SD. Yukio and the legendary bysby (who didnt even know it was happening so I linked him). Apparently Bysby mis understood suzuki-san at some point and thought he said shenmue was originally a sci fi O_O

Anyway, I loved the presentation, even though nothing else was announced, but I wasnt expecting an announcement anyway. I am glad they stuck to what they originally said this was going to be, a postmortem. I think the fact that Mark Cerny did the translations might hold some subliminal message between atelast cerny/Sony and Suzuki, if not Sony, and sega. Who knows what may be in the works, I wish one of the reporters did ask suzuki about Shenmue HD during the Q/A though.

blacktorn wrote: Eurogamer run a article discussing Yu being interested in a kickstarter project but Yu alo happened to mentioned he is working on a secret project....wonder what that could be...probably something mobile related?

Perhaps if Yu had continued after shenmue to make decent games he would of gathered enough money to fund shenmue himself...all he's accomplished were 2 failed shenmue related shuffle ware and one arcade weird thing that you rub with your fingers....get a grip Yu

BlueMue wrote: Interesting that they're both together at such an event again, even though they two are probably not related like they were at the GDC. Hopefuly the Japanese developers / journalists will have better questions for Yu...