ys wrote: badamn wrote: dude u r soo wrong. and i've heard this iterated here before.When Shenmue and 2 came out hardly anyone knew what it was.nowadays it doesn't matter who i run into anybody i know knows what Shenmue is because of me even my then kindergarten nephews know plus the fact that the money to produce it would be waaaay lower and the market would be waaaay bigger.It's coming kiddo and I bet no one knows the magnitude of the success it will have...nothings been talked about more..for sure!And i hope these execs realize that by the time shenmue 2 came out... most of the people that wanted it had it on pirated discs already and that doesn't show up in the reports they get.
Here in Europe and in Japan people could just buy Shenmue 2 though. It's mainly the US where people were more or less forced to pirate it. The demise of the Dreamcast was a major contributing factor though when it comes to sales.
Besides, from what I've seen in several articles, businesses do have estimates of piracy actually.
And I don't know if I agree that Shenmue wasn't known during the Dreamcast days since a very large part of all Dreamcast owners bought the game. To me it seemed like a well known title together with others like Skies of Arcadia, Sonic Adventure.
As stated in my topic on shenmue's decline being related to pirate copies. I too am under the assumption that not enough people got to see the game. If you look at my post I discuss it in more detail. But basically at the time playstation was much more widespread than dreamcast. Dreamcast only had major titles like sonic to lure people in. But in my experience i guess people weren't all as crazy about sonic at that time. The other titles Dreamcast did have were already available on the playstation. I believe Sony dominated the market at this time and thus if they Sega was able to release Shenmue on the playstation as well as the dreamcast, I believe it would have reached a huge audience.
I believe this is the reason why everyone I speak to who I mention Shenmue to, don't know what it is.
Believe me I've told a big number of people about it and they all say. "What's Shenmue?" It's really sad that such a great game didn't get its deserved attention.
People were too busy playing, silent hill, crash bash, final fantasy, fear effect. Then the first xbox came out and people moved their attention to that. I see it as a lot of people went PS1 > XBOX, with no in-between. skipped dreamcast completely. So never heard of Shenmue. Then they brought out just Shenmue 2 but not Shenmue 1 on xbox. I cannot understand why you'd want to re-release a sequel before the original. People will want to find the first one, realise its on another console thats dying and think forget Shenmue.
Then came Halo, and so spawned this new type of gaming. Then Call of Duty and it's pretty much stuck like that for 13 years. Businesses won't take risks unless they draw up a business plan and see some kind of evidence that it will make a lot of money.
A shenmue 1 and 2 HD remake could be beneficial, but as somebody else said it could just be a way to make money out of us. If you already have the 2 games there's not much point.
When you see a friend online and it tells you what game they're playing, if it was released and people kept seeing 'Shenmue HD' they'd wonder what it was all about. Then maybe it would spread around and create some buzz about it. But if that didn't happen I honestly doubt there will ever be a third.
As it stands I think until a HD remake is made just total forget about a third. It's a business venture. The only way a third would do it is if it was made to look like current games, how are they going to do that without taking away the feel and look of the Shenmue we know.
rant over