Shenmue Dojo

Kiske wrote: What makes me kind of mad with this SEGA Forever service on mobiles is that Shenmue HD is supposedly on the top of every SEGA list for requested games...

But somehow they'll manage to release the whole SEGA catalogue (on mobiles) before...

Shenmue HD on god knows what...

Let's Get Sweaty wrote:

Kiske wrote: What makes me kind of mad with this SEGA Forever service on mobiles is that Shenmue HD is supposedly on the top of every SEGA list for requested games...

But somehow they'll manage to release the whole SEGA catalogue (on mobiles) before...

Shenmue HD on god knows what...

Yeah but those games didn't have Timex watches in them.

sutoji wrote: I spotted a Dreamcast in the trailer!!!

I am desperately hoping for a mobile port of Shenmue 2 so I can play it portably. I really don't have time to play on my Dreamcast anymore. Since they said it would be free (including ads however which can be paid for to be removed) it looks good. Sega just want it the easy way and thats what they are doing. I wish HD remasters happen first for Shenmue so they at least make a profit.

...., as there's a much bigger problem with this Sega Forever line-up: these ports offer significantly worse performance than that of their older versions, even on more modern hardware.

Allegedly this is because these retro classics were ported over in Unity. Our Digital Foundry tech aficionado John Linneman said "Do not touch those Sega Forever games," noting that they're "lousy emulation in a Unity wrapper."

"The games are designed to run at 60 frames per second. This emulator tries to do that but drops frames resulting in something that looks more like ~45 fps or so. There are loads of dropped frames, hitches and skips," he said.

"30fps is bad, but an even, stable 30fps would have been better than this. The issue here is that it skips and stutters during gameplay. And when a notification occurs, it gets much worse. So it never plays smoothly."

Even weirder is that these low-tech titles played far better on older hardware, due to more optimised emulation. "iPhone 3GS could play those old apps at a full 60fps while iPhone 6S+ with the new apps cannot," Linneman explained.

He postulated that another emulator, RetroArch, would have been a much better fit for the project, though its developer Libretro said it couldn't reach an agreement with Sega on its terms of service.

"Sorry to all the people that are experiencing subpar performance with this Unity thing," the RetroArch devs tweeted. "They could have been using RetroArch right now if they hadn't been so stubbornly insistent on demanding we relicense our entire program to something that would strip us of all our rights, on top of some other unreasonable things like not showing any branding, etc. Hell, they could have had this running on the desktop right now on top of consoles and maybe some netplay as well. Oh well..."

Technophilz wrote: Source: Eurogamer.net

Pure stupidity ... I'd prefer NOT to see Shenmue suffer in such a horrible way ...

south carmain wrote: lol GG SEGA

Kintor wrote:. People need to stop giving those RetroArch guys attention, they're just unhappy they never got the lucrative contract with Sega and have been bad mouthing Sega Forever since day one.

"About 90 per cent of the games so far are in Unity," Sega Networks' chief marketing officer Mike Evans explained in an interview with GamesIndustry. "The reason we chose Unity as middleware is it enables us to take this content to other platforms as well."

fittersau wrote:

south carmain wrote: lol GG SEGA

Crazy hey, after such a flashy inspirational video by Nagoshi...

south carmain wrote:

fittersau wrote:

south carmain wrote: lol GG SEGA

Crazy hey, after such a flashy inspirational video by Nagoshi...

Yeah I actually thought that there might be something interesting there, I can be very naive sometimes.