Shenmue Dojo

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote: I really never considered leaving, but I found South Carmain's rebuttal just as immature - if not more - than my own outburst. I have no idea what his problem is.

Well since you don't give a fuck about this game anymore and I can't remember you posting here when the game was dead I assumed you would be leaving now.

I didn't say i don't care about the game. Also, I can easily still contribute and see where it goes without getting emotionally invested and waiting for disappointment. This doesn't mean I don't "give a fuck" about the game anymore at all, and you can fuck off, personally.

Contribute as in complain people were calling you negative after spending an entire thread telling someone to not be negative?

Anyway in your own words: "this game is fucked" so there's not much point in you hanging around just so you can try and tell people "I told you so". That jab at peter was pretty unwarranted too considering you took a lucky guess and all he was saying was that you're no expert so shouldn't speak with so much certainty on the subject.

I have been streaming Shenmue on the Dojo twitch daily to try to raise awareness to interest new players.

I have posted numerous news, articles, and opinions on III and Shenmue.

I have not seen you do a single thing except ride my tits.

Yama wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

Jackie Fhan wrote:
I can't see where that last line helps at all, why say it . I mean, it will only drive a negative feeling in others to have the same feeling. That's how people work, let's just try our best to reach the goals we want. Why not

It's plenty helpful. It's especially helpful for me so that I no longer get emotionally attached to a game that may or may not be shit. After a long line of years waiting - pretty much a decade in my case - I am coming to terms with the honest to God truth: that Shenmue is cursed. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. If the game turns out well, fine. That'll be nice. But at current trajectory, given every single bit of evidence thrown at the wall, it isn't. And I refuse - REFUSE - to be emotionally attached to a game I've been waiting a decade for that turns out to be shit.

So I assume that you will be leaving then, yes?

If that's what you want.

Right, but to be fair a few weeks back we'd have taken a damn 2D side scroller or a manga, now we're giving up before development even starts? I understand your frustration, I share it. But this is definitely going to be a marathon and we haven't even gotten out of the box yet, it's no time to give up. The leaving part over a disagreement with two people was especially silly though, no offense. Just relax, one way or another it can only go up from here, let's do what we do.

I was thinking this the other day, how greedy people were seeming (don't get me wrong) I really want the shenmue experence of a big budget title but people saying how they don't want the game because of whatever has been a bit silly but oh well

I will say this, I don't believe the game can really have that same structure as the first game did, I think running back and forth to talk to different people has to be structured way way better. You have to have better missions and design of missions. I hope he and the team can really pull that off. I think the game needs some kind of climbing and jumping honestly. I know people will fear that, but I mean, the ability to sneak around buildings, entering windows and things. I don't want the core gameplay to feel different, just a simple evolution is enough. It's hard to do missions when you can't really move very well. I don't want it to move like tomb raider or something, more of the idea of deus ex, being able to tackle a mission . Such as going to the offices and sneaking around a bit.

I think the basic idea makes it sond bad to Shenme fans but it doesn't have to seem so different as you think.

But, games have progressed a lot in controls. I really believe you can't have that same mission structure as one had. Half the game didn't have missions at all, that style of gameplay wouldn't even be fun for half the buyers of the first game today. My meaning is, the missons of just walk and talk. We need some actual objectives with the walking and talking mixed in of course.

Like Yu said though, having a better tree and speech system would be great to have actually. Mass Effect seemed mostly ok with that imo

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote: I really never considered leaving, but I found South Carmain's rebuttal just as immature - if not more - than my own outburst. I have no idea what his problem is.

Well since you don't give a fuck about this game anymore and I can't remember you posting here when the game was dead I assumed you would be leaving now.

I didn't say i don't care about the game. Also, I can easily still contribute and see where it goes without getting emotionally invested and waiting for disappointment. This doesn't mean I don't "give a fuck" about the game anymore at all, and you can fuck off, personally.

Contribute as in complain people were calling you negative after spending an entire thread telling someone to not be negative?

Anyway in your own words: "this game is fucked" so there's not much point in you hanging around just so you can try and tell people "I told you so". That jab at peter was pretty unwarranted too considering you took a lucky guess and all he was saying was that you're no expert so shouldn't speak with so much certainty on the subject.

I have been streaming Shenmue on the Dojo twitch daily to try to raise awareness to interest new players.

I have posted numerous news, articles, and opinions on III and Shenmue.

I have not seen you do a single thing except ride my tits.

Good for you I guess? Maybe you could put that on your resume at your next job or something.

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote: I really never considered leaving, but I found South Carmain's rebuttal just as immature - if not more - than my own outburst. I have no idea what his problem is.

Well since you don't give a fuck about this game anymore and I can't remember you posting here when the game was dead I assumed you would be leaving now.

I didn't say i don't care about the game. Also, I can easily still contribute and see where it goes without getting emotionally invested and waiting for disappointment. This doesn't mean I don't "give a fuck" about the game anymore at all, and you can fuck off, personally.

Contribute as in complain people were calling you negative after spending an entire thread telling someone to not be negative?

Anyway in your own words: "this game is fucked" so there's not much point in you hanging around just so you can try and tell people "I told you so". That jab at peter was pretty unwarranted too considering you took a lucky guess and all he was saying was that you're no expert so shouldn't speak with so much certainty on the subject.

I have been streaming Shenmue on the Dojo twitch daily to try to raise awareness to interest new players.

I have posted numerous news, articles, and opinions on III and Shenmue.

I have not seen you do a single thing except ride my tits.

Good for you I guess? Maybe you could put that on your resume at your next job or something.

I mean, at least he is trying. I don't see why you gotta maulk him. He just wants the things to do well

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote: I really never considered leaving, but I found South Carmain's rebuttal just as immature - if not more - than my own outburst. I have no idea what his problem is.

Well since you don't give a fuck about this game anymore and I can't remember you posting here when the game was dead I assumed you would be leaving now.

I didn't say i don't care about the game. Also, I can easily still contribute and see where it goes without getting emotionally invested and waiting for disappointment. This doesn't mean I don't "give a fuck" about the game anymore at all, and you can fuck off, personally.

Contribute as in complain people were calling you negative after spending an entire thread telling someone to not be negative?

Anyway in your own words: "this game is fucked" so there's not much point in you hanging around just so you can try and tell people "I told you so". That jab at peter was pretty unwarranted too considering you took a lucky guess and all he was saying was that you're no expert so shouldn't speak with so much certainty on the subject.

I have been streaming Shenmue on the Dojo twitch daily to try to raise awareness to interest new players.

I have posted numerous news, articles, and opinions on III and Shenmue.

I have not seen you do a single thing except ride my tits.

Good for you I guess? Maybe you could put that on your resume at your next job or something.

Are you a moron? You seem to be a fellow socialist/communist, so I'm going to assume no. Where's the snark coming from? What is your issue? You just said all I do to contribute is apparently complain. I refuted your claim. And that's all you've got? Are you a child?

Himuro wrote:

south carmain wrote:

Himuro wrote: I really never considered leaving, but I found South Carmain's rebuttal just as immature - if not more - than my own outburst. I have no idea what his problem is.

Well since you don't give a fuck about this game anymore and I can't remember you posting here when the game was dead I assumed you would be leaving now.

I didn't say i don't care about the game. Also, I can easily still contribute and see where it goes without getting emotionally invested and waiting for disappointment. This doesn't mean I don't "give a fuck" about the game anymore at all, and you can fuck off, personally.

Nope had enough of this. You have a warning. Under no circumstances are we tolerating personal attacks on other members, I even let your "stupid ass" comment against me slide. Yama has even asked you to chill out.

It's clear you can't keep your emotions in check, so get off the boards and relax. All your posts are, "me, me, me" and a few of us are tired of it quite frankly. If you want to lead some sort of 2003 immature revolution against Awesome Japan, go do it elsewhere.

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