New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby johnvivant » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:06 pm

I think its likely that these Akira quest chapters don't conform to the exact way they ended up in the shenmue games.

firstly there is no image representing the boat chapter.
we know for sure that the boat was an official chapter that was cut, it was chapter 2.

there is also no image for chapter 3 Aberdeen/Wan Chai.

i wouldn't be surprised if various chapters were added, removed, and moved around.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Giorgio » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:13 pm

"The Old Man and the Peach Tree"

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Remember this topic? It says that the "Shenmue Tree" is actually a peach tree.

Seems plausible, if you consider the image above, of a very early prototype of VFRPG, which later became Shenmue.

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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Yama » Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:58 pm

ShenSun wrote: Pirating was a big reason why some titles failed on the dreamcast. But Shenmue was doomed from the get go. Every dreamcast owner had to buy the game twice in order for it to make a profit. Brilliant idea Sega.

Right, but with the engine in place and close to eleven games pondered, it'd have eventually made a profit over time. The outcome obviously wasn't the plan, it was a long term attack.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby BlueMue » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:01 pm

Giorgio wrote:Remember this topic? It says that the "Shenmue Tree" is actually a peach tree.

Seems plausible, if you consider the image above, of a very early prototype of VFRPG, which later became Shenmue.

You know that really does makes sense. Seems plausible the Shenmue tree somehow survived from this earilest stage of the developement in a way.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Marulu » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:14 pm

In the middle of image three you can see a grey face, this looks kinda like the giant stone face that is seen in the project berkley CG intro.

If Yu Suzuki already has written 11 novels he should just release those, it is better than the pointless waiting for Shenmue 3.

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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Yama » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:39 pm

Marulu wrote:If Yu Suzuki already has written 11 novels he should just release those, it is better than the pointless waiting for Shenmue 3.

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If all hope is ever lost I'm sure we'll receive that much, I have faith in that. He's seemingly shopping it still however, so we're not at that point thankfully.

Nice avatar, haha. Thought of doing something similar. Imagine if it came true?
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:13 pm

So looking at the art work. Was Shenhua going to come into it several chapters later originally?
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Fenix » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:17 pm

Who Really Cares? wrote: So looking at the art work. Was Shenhua going to come into it several chapters later originally?


I think yes. ShenHua is connected with Luoyang.

Do you remember the picture of mountains at Shenhua's house? They were suposed to be important.
Could these mountains be the ones in the chapter 8th?
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Who Really Cares? » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:27 pm

Yeah I remember them.

Seems a lot more was cut than just chapter 2 unless the train bit was to be moved to later in the story.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Marulu » Thu Mar 20, 2014 2:45 pm

Yama wrote:Nice avatar, haha. Thought of doing something similar. Imagine if it came true?


That would be amazing.

A few months ago I posted on here about modding Shenmue for VR support, with a to do list. I sadly don´t have the time to mod Shenmue.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby elfshadowreaper » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:47 pm

Giorgio wrote: "The Old Man and the Peach Tree"

Image

Remember this topic? It says that the "Shenmue Tree" is actually a peach tree.

Seems plausible, if you consider the image above, of a very early prototype of VFRPG, which later became Shenmue.


That's awesome! People were giving R3N a hard time about it and turns out he was right! Way to go R3N! That really makes me want a bonsai of a peach tree.
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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Ziming » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:48 pm

Found some higher resolution photos.

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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Mestre Ziming » Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:43 pm

Thanks Ziming, its better now,

I think its clear his route:
Japan -> Hong Kong -> Kowloon -> Suzhou -> Guilin -> Xian -> Luoyang -> Cangzhou -> ? -> Beijing -> ?

I guess we now know where should Ryo go after Guilin...
The chapter in kowloon seems a little bit off with the train, maybe he was supossed to cach the train to Suzhou, was it a cut chapter?
I still cant understand where that last location is even with the high resolution but really doesnt seems a famous place, but I have no idea...

Its possbile they changed lots of little things in the story by now even thought most of it seems coerent.
Is also possible they ended with 16 chapters after rethinking the Story from VF to Shenmue.

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Re: New GDC Plot image discussion *Spoilers*

Postby Hadesillo » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:05 am

Can it be something like this? There is a line north of Beijing that confuses me.

-->Comes from Japan
香港 - Hong Kong
Kowloon (Hidden by Picture)
蘇州 - Suzhou
桂林 - Guilin
西京 - Xijing? (Old name for Xi'an 西安)
洛陽 - Luoyang (and Shaolin? 少林)
沧州 - Cangzhou?
Around Inner Mongolia (Hidden by Picture)
北京 Beijing (End)
ロプノール - Lop Nur (An epilogue?)

We should not forget that this was the planning for Virtua Fighter RPG. If I remember correctly, Yu Suzuki spoke about how they later wrote everything in chapters and then changed it to Shenmue, where we know it's 16 chapters. Things surely changed during that time.
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