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Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:04 pm
by ImGladUmad
I love shenmue, I love the story but the real reason why it was so amazing was because it was pushing the envelope at the time. The game was truly immersive, the amount of detail from arcades to forklift jobs was simply amazing.

I really felt like I was living in 80's japan.

Shenmue 3 needs that, I know its hard because they arn't gonna have that $50-$70 million budget but they need to capture that immersion.

Don't get me wrong the Shenmue story is great but that feeling of immersion is much much better...Yu Suzuki can't forget the reason Shenmue 1 is considered the GOAT.

Shenmue 2 Hong Kong didn't feel much immersive either, there was something missing.


The way Shenmue 2 ended was very strange, it seemed to be leaving that realism 80's world which is extremely relatable to the modern gamer today to 80's China village, which doesn't sound much appealing.

I really hope that Shenmue 3 takes place in Japan for the most part...Chinese villagies just doesn't have that immersion 80's japan does.

As for the story, it's been getting more and more "mystical", not sure if this is a good thing but I hope the game for the most part feels like real modern life.


Some of the Realism Features I want is.

>Eating is required now, will make those tomato convenience store useful
>AI reacts to you doing weird stuff like running around,staring at them, looking at wall

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:07 pm
by Himuro
"really hope that Shenmue 3 takes place in Japan for the most part..."

Not happening.

And Chinese villages can be as immersive. Shenmue II disc 4 is the most immersive the series has ever been and it was all in rural China.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:10 pm
by JaySw34
Shenmue really laid down the blueprint for many features found in a lot of games today. It pioneered so many things that are now standard in the open world genre. Really was way ahead of it's time

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:11 pm
by ImGladUmad
Himuro wrote: "really hope that Shenmue 3 takes place in Japan for the most part..."

Not happening.

And Chinese villages can be as immersive. Shenmue II disc 4 is the most immersive the series has ever been and it was all in rural China.


How do you know?

Straight from Yu Suzukis mouth “In Shenmue III, we will have places like Japan and China, of course. Shenmue III paints the pictures of the culture and ideas you can find in eastern Asia"
http://kotaku.com/getting-the-rights-to-shenmue-was-easier-than-you-d-thi-1712037863

Im hoping the Chinese villages are only a very small portion of the game and it takes place mostly in japan.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:15 pm
by Himuro
Huh? Why would Ryo go back to Japan without having fought Lan Di? How is rural China less immersive than Japan? If Japan is in Shenmue III then why isn't it mentioned in he location stretch goals? If you look at Shenmue's story map that Yu showed at GDC, you'll see that pretty much the rest of the story takes place in rural China.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:15 pm
by Thief
I personally think Shenmue 3 is going to be similar to the first game in a lot of ways. Shenmue 2 was certainly more action-packed than the first game, but it didn't really have a small-town feeling. Now we're in Guilin... and it doesn't get more small-town than that. I think you're going to get a lot of the aspects that made you like the 1980's Yokosuka in Shenmue 3, despite not actually taking place in Japan.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:18 pm
by JaySw34
I don't think it's too farfetched to think that the story will eventually bring Ryo back to Japan.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:18 pm
by Himuro
I agree. Shenmue II didn't have a small town feeling because it wasn't in a small town. It wasn't as immersive because it took place in wild chaotic locations. With III being in small towns, they can now recreate that feeling from I. The setting of the country doesn't matter. I'm not sure why you're putting Japan on such a high pedestal.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:19 pm
by shredingskin
Himuro wrote: Huh? Why would Ryo go back to Japan without having fought Lan Di?


Booty call from nozomi.

Ah, yeah, it's Ryo, not happening :sad:

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:21 pm
by Himuro
JaySw34 wrote: I don't think it's too farfetched to think that the story will eventually bring Ryo back to Japan.


In III? Why? So Ryo is going to go back to Japan with Shenhua without having completed his goal and then get another job to support his baby and wife (Shenhua) while saving up to go to China again? All in one game? I predict Ryo will go back to Japan at the end of his journey and III isn't going to be the last game.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:22 pm
by shredingskin
Shenhua is not Ryo love interest.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:23 pm
by Himuro
shredingskin wrote: Shenhua is not Ryo love interest.


Shush, let me ship. :mrgreen:

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:23 pm
by Thief
shredingskin wrote: Shenhua is not Ryo love interest.


You're right, it's Fangmei.

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:25 pm
by sand4fish
Thief wrote:
shredingskin wrote: Shenhua is not Ryo love interest.


You're right, it's Fangmei.


You're wrong. That got to be Goro! [-(

Since when Ryo was into women?

Re: Immersive Realism Features>Story, Y Shenmue 1 is GOAT.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:26 pm
by Himuro
It's actually Ren. :-({|=