Kickstarter Update #47

[Technophilz]

Old Ryo
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New Ryo

Judge for yourself.

14 years later when we'd expect far better graphics, we get this instead. The Dreamcast was indeed way ahead of its time ....

[shredingskin]

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[Yokosuka]

If it really is the lighting making the model look different, that's some ninth generation shit right there!

Then again...

- Face looks much more defined and chiselled down, particularly the jaw
- The nose has a smooth slope in the second image compared to the prominent bridge in the first
- The hair has a slightly messier look compared to the Yamcha look
- The plaster on his face appears to have been smoothed out, given more depth, and an added blemish
- Thicker eyebrows (though that could be down to the lighting)
- The shape of the head has gone from a lemon to a curvier look

I'm 95% sure it's an updated model. It looks way more like the Ryo we all know and love.

Ok good decomposition, it seems to be less "obvious" than I thought if you watch very carefully. However there may also be some other factors. The dev could have changed slightly the expression into a talking face for the test purpose. Logistically, I don't get the point to swap the original model for a new one with so few improvements during the tests.

At least, we know it's an old model and that we still haven't see the current one. Ryo is maybe already way gorgeous as we speak.

[Peter]

It's Shenmue 3. That's good enough for me by miles.

[Henry Spencer]

Old Ryo
Old / New Ryo 50% overlay
New Ryo

Judge for yourself.

14 years later when we'd expect far better graphics, we get this instead. The Dreamcast was indeed way ahead of its time ....

The game is 3 months into development. 3 months. And they said that it's an old model, so it's no longer relevant. Still looks better than the derpy first model we got. He actually isn't pale now and actually looks slightly Japanese.

[FlagshipFighter]

It's Shenmue 3. That's good enough for me by miles.

Right? Seriously guys, so much negativity in this topic.

[shredingskin]

I don't know what people expect to look like actually.

Any references to say "this is it" ??

Because it looks fucking good for a indie game (that this pretty much is), and it has been only 3 months WTF do you expect ?

[Yokosuka]

I don't know what people expect to look like actually.

Any references to say "this is it" ??

Because it looks fucking good for a indie game (that this pretty much is), and it has been only 3 months WTF do you expect ?

I don't think this model has 3 months of work. It's the same as the E3 but likely with some improvements.
If this model is really 3 months, so yeah the worries are relevant.

[shredingskin]

Most of the time was probably used in pre-production to see the scope of the game.

But really, what kind of graphics/style do you expect ? Because it looks fairly good to me.

[Hyo Razuki]

Look at the stance Ryo is taking in those pictures. The position of the hands and also the foot layout is totally different from the Hazuki style stance. This looks thrilling indeed.

Also, Ryo's face looks way better now, imho. We're getting there. On a side note: the color of Ryo's jeans also seems to have changed from classic 1980's light blue in the first two games to something more grey-ish now. Looks good, actually.

[Yokosuka]

Most of the time was probably used in pre-production to see the scope of the game.

But really, what kind of graphics/style do you expect ? Because it looks fairly good to me.

For the final version ? Honestly I don't know. My dream would be the Project Zero 5 faces quality at the very least but we don't know enough things about the artistic team neither the actual budget to expect something particular. And you ?

[shredingskin]

I think the hut looks really what I thought Shenmue III would look like.

I'm happy with the face as it is right now tbh, it could be improved, something similar to SO Ryo with a less plasticky jacket and higher poly.

Remember that the image looks weird because it's using a really high chromatic aberration (probably to mask that it's a pre-made scene).

Shenmue had a weird style in that the main characters look anime-like but npcs had a more realistic approach.

[Yokosuka]

Shenmue had a weird style in that the main characters look anime-like but npcs had a more realistic approach.

I know what you mean.

[Amir]

There's been at least 2, if not 3 Ryo models so far. The awful one in the E3 and KS video, then the one in the image with Shenhua, and then the Famitsu one which we see in these testing shots as well. We've already seen progress, I'm sure the final model will be great. I think the most important thing is to make him expressive; the Passport version of Ryo is nowhere near as warm and expressive as the in-game version on Dreamcast.

[johnvivant]

one thing wrong with the new face is that the lips are too full, it looks like he's had botox injections, but maybe its just because he's in the middle of speaking, . i wish it was possible to erase the kickstarter face from existence, as it still seems to get used in the majority of reports and articles about s3. i cringe a little every time i see it.