Shenmue III and Red Dead Redemption 2 launch window

[SMDzero]

Here is the exclusive box-art for your precious Red Dead 2 cowboy game

The guy on the right - doesn't he manage Chunyan?

Why so mad, by the way? I'm doing all this in good spirit, but you don't honestly think Shenmue III has a chance of outselling Red Dead Redemption 2, do you?

Sorry I'm just messing around dude

But seriously what if Sega and Sony put a TON of advertising dollars behind Shenmue 3 and it truly was a AAA quality game?

What if the release was preceded by full HD remakes of Shenmue 1 and 2?

I think, if the conditions were right, Shenmue 3 could be an all time best seller.

In a perfect world, the conditions of which are decided upon Shenmue fans, yes, it's entirely possible; but this is reality, so it's not going to work out like that. No matter how much money is put behind the marketing of Shenmue III; no matter if full HD remakes/remasters of the first two games are put out; and no matter if every copy of the game comes with a free blowjob, it will still be outsold by RDR2. Rockstar are one of the hardest hitters in the industry, and both their name and franchises carry serious weight, the likes of which an indie studio from Japan will never be able to surpass.

With GTA V having shipped over sixty-million copies, I predict RDR2 is going to do at least twenty-million. At least. Best case scenario, Shenmue III is going to sell a few million over the course of its existence, and if that's enough to see sequels, then that should be good enough for all of us.

Oh you're probably right, as usual!

Well, you have to admit that WE will probably consider Shenmue 3 to be the superior game!

[ShenGCH]

Oh you're probably right, as usual!

Well, you have to admit that WE will probably consider Shenmue 3 to be the superior game!

We haven't played it yet. It might turn out to be mediocre as fuck.

[SMDzero]

Oh you're probably right, as usual!

Well, you have to admit that WE will probably consider Shenmue 3 to be the superior game!

We haven't played it yet. It might turn out to be mediocre as fuck.

The idea of Shenmue 3 being "mediocre as fudge" is a pretty far fetched notion itself.

[ShenGCH]

Oh you're probably right, as usual!

Well, you have to admit that WE will probably consider Shenmue 3 to be the superior game!

We haven't played it yet. It might turn out to be mediocre as fuck.

The idea of Shenmue 3 being "mediocre as fudge" is a pretty far fetched notion itself.

I seem to recall people saying something similar about No Man's Sky...

Saying that, I really do trust Yu Suzuki and co. to work to the best of their abilities, working as hard as they possibly can to live up to their vision to deliver the experience they promised, but as for whether it will all work out is currently unknown. We haven't seen a whole lot of the game outside of some environments, character models, and WIP animations, so we really can't judge at the moment, but the proof will be in the pudding. I, like everyone else here, hope Shenmue III ends up being fucking amazing, but it might not be. It simply might not be. We'll just have to wait and see.

[FlagshipFighter]

By Cedric's own admission, they are not aiming for a AAA experience with Shenmue III, "more AA".

And that's fine. Most AAA games drown in their own bloated development these days. A tighter experience probably suits the more internal, personal Shenmue that Suzuki always wanted III to be anyway.

[Himuro]

By Cedric's own admission, they are not aiming for a AAA experience with Shenmue III, "more AA".

Link to this?

[Let's Get Sweaty]

By Cedric's own admission, they are not aiming for a AAA experience with Shenmue III, "more AA".

Link to this?

Here

[Spaghetti]

I'll have to dig up the exact quote I referred to when I have time, but Cedric has said before that they're not aiming for a AAA experience.

From the Desert Bus interview:

(Shenmue III) will not be Call of Duty but it will be a really good PS4 game and will easily meet the current PS4 standards.

I classify AA to mean something along the lines of Life is Strange, but I expect Shenmue III to straddle the line a little closer to AAA simply because of the talent involved, a better engine, and a more action-oriented focus.

[ys]

By Cedric's own admission, they are not aiming for a AAA experience with Shenmue III, "more AA".

And that's fine. Most AAA games drown in their own bloated development these days. A tighter experience probably suits the more internal, personal Shenmue that Suzuki always wanted III to be anyway.

It also depends on how he uses the term AAA. The definition is vague actually. Some use it as a seal of quality while several people in the industry use it to describe games with a huge budget for development and marketing. Higher quality and sales are assumed in that case but not guaranteed.

[Spaghetti]

It also depends on how he uses the term AAA. The definition is vague actually. Some use it as a seal of quality while several people in the industry use it to describe games with a huge budget for development and marketing. Higher quality and sales are assumed in that case but not guaranteed.

The two definitions are intertwined though. The higher the budget, the higher the production values, and they usually have a larger marketing blitz to assist in recouping on investment.

Either way, the statement is hardly worrying. It's just further proof they intend the run a tight ship on development and not shoot for the mood needlessly. Shenmue isn't a AAA experience in today's market, and doesn't really need to be. An intimate, focused, passionate, and original experience is ultimately what we want out of Shenmue III, right? None of that inherently carries a AAA price tag.

[The_Fuzileiro]

Well... all this discussion of an AA or triple-A game will be finished next in December, at playstation Experience...
It might as well prove us how sony will deal with the merchandising. We did our part of the job, funding the game... Yu Suzuki and his team are doing their best producing the game... and sony MUST do an exceptional merchandising... promoting Shenmue in the most professional way, AND selling Shenmue like an AAA game... even if it turn out to be an AA.

And Sega... if those bastards had the minimal respect with us... they should gave financial support for Shenmue III... and knowing there is just the opposite ( they are going to make profit with Shenmue III, even not given a fucking penny ) at least they should release a good remasterization of previous series.

[delvec19]

Well... all this discussion of an AA or triple-A game will be finished next in December, at playstation Experience...
It might as well prove us how sony will deal with the merchandising. We did our part of the job, funding the game... Yu Suzuki and his team are doing their best producing the game... and sony MUST do an exceptional merchandising... promoting Shenmue in the most professional way, AND selling Shenmue like an AAA game... even if it turn out to be an AA.

And Sega... if those bastards had the minimal respect with us... they should gave financial support for Shenmue III... and knowing there is just the opposite ( they are going to make profit with Shenmue III, even not given a fucking penny ) at least they should release a good remasterization of previous series.

https://days.to/until/3-december

[Spaghetti]

sony MUST do an exceptional merchandising... promoting Shenmue in the most professional way, AND selling Shenmue like an AAA game... even if it turn out to be an AA.

In a post-No Man's Sky world, I'm not sure that's the best idea.

It'll probably be best to put emphasis on Shenmue as an alternative game experience rather than play the traditional AAA hype game.

[fittersau]

By Cedric's own admission, they are not aiming for a AAA experience with Shenmue III, "more AA".

And that's fine. Most AAA games drown in their own bloated development these days. A tighter experience probably suits the more internal, personal Shenmue that Suzuki always wanted III to be anyway.

But he's still hoping to sell 1m plus. So it's still a big ask.

RDR2 launching at the same time as Shenmue 3 is a bad thing imo. Rockstar have the marketing muscle to drown out any publicity Shenmue 3 might make.

RDR1 killed off Capcom's Lost Planet 2 which launched at the same time even though seemingly different focused games, RDR was claiming it had an amazing coop experience which LP2 was built from scratch on. RDR was a success, LP2 while didn't sell badly, was way below Capcom expectations and reviewed badly because the reviewers reviewed as a single player game and not the coop game it was. RDR coop was craptastic by comparison.

Now Shenmue 3 is an open world adventure with indie funding and marketing, RDR2 will be billed as an open world adventure with R*'s full force and massive marketing muscle.

I just hope Shenmue 3 doesn't launch at the same time.

[fittersau]

Has anyone considered the possibility that Shenmue 3 might... just might outsell Red Dead Redemption 2???

I'm no prophet, but that's never gonna happen.

To quote Yu Suzuki: "I believe in miracles".

To quote Wikipedia: "As of August 2015, Red Dead Redemption has shipped over 14 million units."

To quote Yu Suzuki " Red Dead Redemption proves that players will put up with mediocre gameplay as long as the art is good."

It wasn't even good on the PS3.. rendering out at 1152x640... how embarrassing..