Shenmue III teaser is FINALLY HERE!!

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Spaghetti » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:30 pm

mjq jazz bar wrote:i mostly agree with you, and I find it particularly odd people are convincing themselves the team released "bad footage" intentionally. No sane publisher or developer would do that with a game like this. That said, the game is still a ways off, so I think we need to worry more about this stuff closer to the game's release date.

It was a misjudgement to include the rougher portions of the video for public consumption, but YSnet's explanation of the situation is fair enough considering the context.

It was a rock and a hard place. Go another 6 or more months without much footage and let people like Waves in the KS comments bubble further into madness (that was spreading elsewhere), or just put out a WIP teaser that'll look much better the next time footage is released and get people like Waves off their backs for the meanwhile.

I don't think YSnet were expecting an incredibly warm reception considering the amount Yu pointed out was WIP in the interviews, along with the unseen test footage shown to certain press to prove they were aiming higher with models and animations.

I mean, this quote from Hideaki Morishita in Switch's translation of the Game*Spark interview says it all:

I think the showing of the teaser this time, even in a promotional sense, was a little premature of us.

For an extremely long time, since the project was launched in 2015, we hadn't released a video publicly. Now, since a publishing contract with Deep Silver had been reached, we wanted to make an announcement that encompassed a sense of "The project development is moving forward under a new structure; please be reassured, everybody." Discussing among ourselves, there was a general agreement that such an announcement wouldn't work without images, and so our decision came about to release a video now.

It might sound a bit like making excuses, but even though there were parts that have a long way to go and that we're not fully satisfied with, it was a case of "we can't release nothing, so let's go ahead and release it".


It was naive of them to think people would read the video description, and again, the video itself could have been clipped to hide the flaws better, but if things pan out as they plan this was short term pain for long term gain.

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Mystere » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:51 pm

Give me Evangelists any day over the culture police that infest today's gaming industry. Two sides of the same coin, except one can be easily laughed at. The other cannot.
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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby TwiceFriedRice » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:29 pm

celsowm wrote:Does any Dojo member have had access to the "extended trailer" ?
Peter?


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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Spaghetti » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:34 pm

Who knew the extended Shenmue III teaser was 10GB of animal porn?

That crazy Yu.
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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:00 pm

TwiceFriedRice wrote:
celsowm wrote:Does any Dojo member have had access to the "extended trailer" ?
Peter?


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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Riku Rose » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:02 pm

south carmain sent me the extended trailer in a PM, it's taken from a phone but you can see it clear as day. I'm sure if anyone PM's him he'll happily share it with you.

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:18 pm

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Shenhua-Nani? wrote:Yeah, it's almost like people wait for a chance to spit all the hate they have inside.


There aren't armies of Shenmue haters waiting in the shadows to come out and shit on the game. The last game came out over 15 years ago so the majority of gamers today probably have no history with the series, let alone anything around the time of the Dreamcast so all they see was a trailer for a game with terrible animation. The bad publicity for the last Mass Effect made that game a failure in the eyes of EA for the exact same thing as was shown in this trailer.

Overall the decision to release this trailer with it's flaws is baffeling. The trailer may have had 700k views but the game only sold 70k copies on Kickstarter and there wasn't much there to convince the other 630k who viewed it to buy this series. The general gaming community are who they need to market towards, not us who have already bought the game. I enjoyed seeing the trailer like the rest of you but taking off my rose tinted glasses it's not just because people are haters or idiots that they're shitting on the trailer. To anyone without an attachment to the series it's not something they'll be spending $60 on based on that trailer. If I wasn't a Shenmue fan and watched that I wouldn't even bother watching the next trailer. YsNet really need to think carefully about how they market this going forward.


But the trailer was great so I don't see what the problem is. I mean, the only bad points were the Ryo and Shenhua models (I'm very picky in this regard though because I want them to look like a specific way and nothing less!)and the facial animations (though I didn't even notice them until some people pointed them out, and I still don't really!) The plus sides to the trailer were the astonishing environments, incredible fight scenes and the whole overall Shenmue feel that it had. It's certainly a win in my book!

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Kiske » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:48 am

The Gamescom teaser has been now published on the official Shenmue 3 Youtube channel.

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Riku Rose » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:48 am

Shenmue_Legend wrote:But the trailer was great so I don't see what the problem is. I mean, the only bad points were the Ryo and Shenhua models (I'm very picky in this regard though because I want them to look like a specific way and nothing less!)and the facial animations (though I didn't even notice them until some people pointed them out, and I still don't really!) The plus sides to the trailer were the astonishing environments, incredible fight scenes and the whole overall Shenmue feel that it had. It's certainly a win in my book!


Do you really think someone who has never played a Shenmue game will watch that and be tempted to get into the series? A trailer is meant to sell a game and this doesn't do that. The environments are nice but in 2017 most games have nice environments so they're nothing special. The fight scenes don't look incredible, you have some awkward mocap and Roy doing a move that looks awkward.

I can understand someone saying they enjoyed the trailer since you've been waiting for Shenmue III for years (as I did) but you can't tell me that's a good trailer without it sounding like your inner fanboy leaking out.

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Kiske » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:58 am

@Riku Rose Just out of curiosity, which move is looking awkward? :)
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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby BlueMue » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:06 am

Riku Rose wrote:A trailer is meant to sell a game and this doesn't do that.

This isn't a trailer, but only a teaser, so no problem there. Guess the thread needs a more fitting name, to be fair.
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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Riku Rose » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:08 am

^ Teaser is just another name for trailer really, it's still clips of a game in the style of a trailer that are put on YouTube.

@Kiske the elbow on the big dude. I think it's mainly how Ryo just stands still afterward with the blank stare that does it.

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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Kiske » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:21 am

Riku Rose wrote: ^ Teaser is just another name for trailer really, it's still clips of a game in the style of a trailer that are put on YouTube.

@Kiske the elbow on the big dude. I think it's mainly how Ryo just stands still afterward with the blank stare that does it.


Yeah. The lack of facial animation hurts the overall feeling, we agree on that.
As a Shenmue fan on the other hand, I see this scene as a tribute to both Shenmue 1 & 2.

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I'm sure that with a good polished trailer with a decent direction, Shenmue has enough personality and "uniqueness" to draw the interest of a new generation of gamers.
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Re: Shenmue III teaser is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby shredingskin » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:56 am

Well, a teaser should be a snippet of something leaving you waiting for more.

The Shenmue fans will always want more (#saveShenmueIV), but really I don't think it left mainstream wanting more.
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Re: Shenmue 3 trailer is FINALLY HERE!!

Postby Yokosuka » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:47 am

Shenmue.link is calling this video neither a trailer nor a teaser, but a progress video. This should have been the right name adopted by all the other official sources.

Kiske wrote: The Gamescom teaser has been now published on the official Shenmue 3 Youtube channel.

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