"Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

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"Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Switch » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:03 am

Japanese website Famitsu.com has carried out their annual survey, interviewing 107 game creators to ask their resolution for the year ahead and personal direction for 2018.

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I've posted up an English translation of Yu Suzuki's responses on the Phantom River Stone blog. His keyword for the coming year is "immersion" as he will be devoting all his energy to the Shenmue III project.
http://www.phantomriverstone.com/2017/1 ... rsion.html

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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Rikitatsu » Sat Dec 30, 2017 5:47 am

While Suzuki continues to says he got Shenhua's face right this time, I still think it will be a departure from our Shenhua (the one in Shenmue 2).

He seems to be intentionally drifting away from her old design based on what we've seen in the trailer, not only she is more "Anime", but her outfit is vastly different.

I expect her final look will barely resemble the old Shenhua. Guess we'll see in MAGIC.

2003:

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2015:

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2017:

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2018:

???? Hopefully closer to 2001 than anything above.

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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Hazuki00 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:04 am

Thanks switch!

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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:08 am

Rikitatsu wrote: While Suzuki continues to says he got Shenhua's face right this time, I still think it will be a departure from our Shenhua (the one in Shenmue 2).

He seems to be intentionally drifting away from her old design based on what we've seen in the trailer, not only she is more "Anime", but her outfit is vastly different.

I expect her final look will barely resemble the old Shenhua. Guess we'll see in MAGIC.

2003:

Image

2015:

Image

2017:

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2018:

???? Hopefully closer to 2001 than anything above.


This is how she should look Image hopefully at Magic Monaco, the finished Shenhua looks exactly like this (or at least similar).
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby gillian_seed » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:37 am

It is not coherent to show Shenhua wearing a diferent outfit inmediatly after Shenmue 2's ending, as was shown in Gamescom trailer. I hope they have redesigned Shenhua from the scratch, because last model shown was miles away from 2001's Shenhua. It's not about making her look diferent, but to not make her look far worse that the one modelled 16 years ago.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby darksniper » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:31 pm

While Shenhua's model clearly needs work. I'm not going to pass any judgment on the character models until I see Lan Di and Ren's model. Those are the two I really want to see.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:54 pm

darksniper wrote: While Shenhua's model clearly needs work. I'm not going to pass any judgment on the character models until I see Lan Di and Ren's model. Those are the two I really want to see.


There's pretty much no way they can mess up the models of Lan Di and Ren. It's so easy. Unlike Ryo and Shenhua, they don't have tons of CG promo models and DC models and stuff to the point where you have to do a lot of research in order to find the best one. Here, they just need to copy the Dreamcast models of Ren and Lan Di but create a HD version of them for modern consoles. Don't alter the facial features or anything like that at all just give them a graphical upgrade and you've got your perfect Lan Di and Ren!
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby adom11800 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:41 pm

Cheers for this Switch. I wonder what Shenhua looks like now? :-k I expect her to look different to her old 2003 model of course but hopefully she will look more like herself. To me the 2015 one is better then the 2017 one so it's interesting to see what her final model is gonna look like in 2018.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby shredingskin » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:19 pm

I'm gonna be a little cynic here and I'm gonna say the comment about Shenhua seems like an excuse to say "we are gonna keep working on it".
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Suzuki Yu » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:04 pm

Rikitatsu wrote: While Suzuki continues to says he got Shenhua's face right this time, I still think it will be a departure from our Shenhua (the one in Shenmue 2).

He seems to be intentionally drifting away from her old design based on what we've seen in the trailer, not only she is more "Anime", but her outfit is vastly different.

I expect her final look will barely resemble the old Shenhua. Guess we'll see in MAGIC.

2003:

Image

2015:

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2017:

Image

2018:

???? Hopefully closer to 2001 than anything above.


this is just reminds me how much i hated the SII model (it wasn't bad but i never felt of any satisfactions towards it)
to me the Shenmue 1 ver (which is a less detailed model) was much better and on-point with what the character should look like.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:18 pm

Suzuki Yu wrote:
Rikitatsu wrote: While Suzuki continues to says he got Shenhua's face right this time, I still think it will be a departure from our Shenhua (the one in Shenmue 2).

He seems to be intentionally drifting away from her old design based on what we've seen in the trailer, not only she is more "Anime", but her outfit is vastly different.

I expect her final look will barely resemble the old Shenhua. Guess we'll see in MAGIC.

2003:

Image

2015:

Image

2017:

Image

2018:

???? Hopefully closer to 2001 than anything above.


this is just reminds me how much i hated the SII model (it wasn't bad but i never felt of any satisfactions towards it)
to me the Shenmue 1 ver (which is a less detailed model) was much better and on-point with what the character should look like.


As always, one of the CG models should be the aim (in this case, it's the one I posted above). It's time to go above and beyond even the DC models. Shenmue III is the chance to get them!
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Centrale » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:37 pm

Shenmue_Legend wrote:
As always, one of the CG models should be the aim (in this case, it's the one I posted above). It's time to go above and beyond even the DC models. Shenmue III is the chance to get them!


Okay, we're all pretty clear about how you feel about this so there's no need to keep repeating it.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Shenmue_Legend » Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:44 pm

Centrale wrote:
Shenmue_Legend wrote:
As always, one of the CG models should be the aim (in this case, it's the one I posted above). It's time to go above and beyond even the DC models. Shenmue III is the chance to get them!


Okay, we're all pretty clear about how you feel about this so there's no need to keep repeating it.


I know but ever since the Ryo character model poll where Dreamcast Ryo got the most votes, I have to make sure to tell everyone that it's not the best path to take since there are people here that want them in Shenmue III instead of the promo models. So, yeah I must spread the message. Now I only have to hope that Yu Suzuki is also aiming for them.
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby shmoozip » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:06 pm

There is no immersion if it is a puzzle fighter. I really regret buying this game last 2 weeks. No fighting in shenmue is not shenmue at all. And qte or puzzle does not count for me
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Re: "Immersion": Yu Suzuki's Keyword for 2018

Postby Rikitatsu » Sun Dec 31, 2017 9:20 pm

Suzuki Yu wrote:
Rikitatsu wrote: While Suzuki continues to says he got Shenhua's face right this time, I still think it will be a departure from our Shenhua (the one in Shenmue 2).

He seems to be intentionally drifting away from her old design based on what we've seen in the trailer, not only she is more "Anime", but her outfit is vastly different.

I expect her final look will barely resemble the old Shenhua. Guess we'll see in MAGIC.

2003:

Image

2015:

Image

2017:

Image

2018:

???? Hopefully closer to 2001 than anything above.


this is just reminds me how much i hated the SII model (it wasn't bad but i never felt of any satisfactions towards it)
to me the Shenmue 1 ver (which is a less detailed model) was much better and on-point with what the character should look like.

I like it. But the main reason why I want her to resemble her S2 self is because that's the model that we are familiar with from all the hours we spent with S2. To me, that's Shenhua. Not the renders, or the passport models, but the in-game one.

Same goes for Ryo.
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