Wasting money on smaller languages

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Yokosuka » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:22 pm

If you remove European subtitles, I see a lot of donors leaving the kickstarter. Bad idea considering the fanbase in Europe is huge.

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Hyo Razuki » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:23 pm

Master Kyodai wrote:I'd have loved it to see these 400,000 bucks being spend on better stuff and just release the english sub file with the game so fans can translate them themselves - as they did for the original Shenmue 1 and 2...


You nailed it! If you want S3 in German, Spanish, Latvian, Xhosa, Tibetan or whatever, do it yourself. :D We've got native speakers from all over the world here at the Dojo.

Hell, I'd give my German translation of S3 to Ys Net for free. And I'd do a better German translation than FF7 got. ;-)

I remember having to mod my Playstation 1 and import the US version after cursing at the German translation's spelling and grammar for so many times. It almost unintelligable. :roll:
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Kenny » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:27 pm

Hyo Razuki wrote: There will be an English voice over, so yeah. I'd be fine without subtitles. :-)


Drop the dub too.

Too much money to hire two sets of VAs. It should all be in its native language. It should all go to game development.

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Set12 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:28 pm

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Hyo Razuki wrote: I seriously think they should drop those German, French, Spanish and Italian subtitles from the game.


And while we're at it, drop the English subtitles too.

Too much of a waste. It should all go to game development. We'll all have to buy our own Japanese translation books or software to trek through it.

Nah, let's get rid of the Japanese language option instead. :lol:
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Kenny » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:29 pm

Get rid of all text and VAs.

Too much money. It should all go to game development.

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby south carmain » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:29 pm

Set12 wrote:
Kenny wrote:
Hyo Razuki wrote: I seriously think they should drop those German, French, Spanish and Italian subtitles from the game.


And while we're at it, drop the English subtitles too.

Too much of a waste. It should all go to game development. We'll all have to buy our own Japanese translation books or software to trek through it.

Nah, let's get rid of the Japanese language option instead. :lol:

Let's get rid of language all together. Why bother getting people to understand the story when money can go in to other things.

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Kenny wrote: Get rid of all text and VAs.

Too much money. It should all go to game development.

hah beat me to it.

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Set12 » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:31 pm

south carmain wrote:Let's get rid of language all together. Why bother getting people to understand the story when money can go in to other things.

Kenny wrote:Get rid of all text and VAs.

Too much money. It should all go to game development.

So sign language or interpretive dance? :-#
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Kenny » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:31 pm

TOO. MUCH. MONEY.
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Esppiral » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:32 pm

I remember my brother watching me play Shenmue a couple of times back in the day, he liked what he saw but he never ever intended to play it since he don't know even a word of english...

I've meet many people during all this years, and I've tried to introduce them in to the world of Shenmue, most liked the game... any played it, the reason was " it does not have even subtitles in spanish" or "I won't pay for a game that I can't comprehend..."
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Hyo Razuki » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:35 pm

Let's agree on French translation only, since a lot of people over there passed on the game for not being in French. Drop Japanese and English. I read French too. Good reason to brush it up again. ;)
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Kenny » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:35 pm

So basically whatever suits your needs, keep.

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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Hyo Razuki » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:57 pm

I've asked Ys about that on Kickstarter just now and suggested that they might do a poll about it among the backers. I do see the point of a lot of people on the forum that there is still a huge (potential) audience in those countries who don't read English.

On the other hand I think it is really worth thinking about dropping the smaller languages, especially if those 400,000$ should be separating us from making another stretch goal after the Kickstarter is finished.

They could do it as a poll. Now, while I personally would vote against those languages and in favor of putting the money into something which actually enhances the game itself, i can understand why others would like the game to have German, Spanish or whatever subtitles.

So if the majority of fans want the subtitles to stay, they would keep it and if the majority wants them to use the money on other stuff, they would kick out the smaller languages. That's what polls are for. :)
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby south carmain » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:58 pm

Good thing no one is going to listen to you.
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby Hyo Razuki » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:03 pm

They do. They answered another one of my questions before.
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Re: Wasting money on smaller languages

Postby south carmain » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:04 pm

Not literally. As in take your opinion on dropping the languages seriously.

But by all means go ahead and suggest it. Tell them to give up valuable markets and damage the success of their game for an extra stretchgoal.

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