How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anyway?

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How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anyway?

Postby TheThirdComing » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:37 am

It's a very rare event for the European market to get a release that the US doesn't get - I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it certainly is rare. So I am curious to how come we got such a privilege? I mean you could even argue that the release wasn't even complete without the inclusion of English dubbed voice acting. I just find it weird that it was never distributed in the US until of course the Xbox re-release.
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby BlueMue » Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:45 am

Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby joka » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:38 am

BlueMue wrote: Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.


Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....

I thought it was more about Europe just being a stronger market for Sega at the time.

Does seem weird though looking back... I still remember going to buy Shenmue 2 on Dreamcast :D
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby munchmunch » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:58 am

Because we're cool

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby Nahovil » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:19 am

England belongs to Europe?
  


 

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby Sonoshee » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:35 am

joka wrote:Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....


The exclusivity deal with MS was probably signed long before the DC version of the game even hit Europe. It was re-textured in places, the frame rate was enhanced and it included a full English dub. That all takes time.

MS didn't sign the rights for the game in Europe, only NA, so it was still released there without any issues on the DC.
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby Vito » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:26 am

Nahovil wrote: England belongs to Europe?

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby joka » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:52 am

Sonoshee wrote:
joka wrote:Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....


The exclusivity deal with MS was probably signed long before the DC version of the game even hit Europe. It was re-textured in places, the frame rate was enhanced and it included a full English dub. That all takes time.

MS didn't sign the rights for the game in Europe, only NA, so it was still released there without any issues on the DC.

Oh ok. We were lucky enough to get the Xbox version too so didn't really pay attention to the reasons back then lol
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby Yokosuka » Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:28 pm

Privilege of release, privilege of original dub and privilege of the better box. :-o

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby drunkensailor » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:04 pm

joka wrote:
BlueMue wrote: Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.


Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....

I thought it was more about Europe just being a stronger market for Sega at the time.

Does seem weird though looking back... I still remember going to buy Shenmue 2 on Dreamcast :D

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby joka » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:05 pm

drunkensailor wrote:
joka wrote:
BlueMue wrote: Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.


Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....

I thought it was more about Europe just being a stronger market for Sega at the time.

Does seem weird though looking back... I still remember going to buy Shenmue 2 on Dreamcast :D

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I didn't say it was to be fair just what I thought but care to elaborate?

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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby ShinChuck » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:57 pm

joka wrote:
BlueMue wrote: Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.


Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....


They were to the point of even advertising Shenmue II's NA Dreamcast release, and then, relatively shortly before it happened, the rug was pulled out from under NA fans.

http://spong.com/article/2358/Shenmue-2-and-Phantasy-Star-Announced-for-Xbox-as-US-Dreamcast-Shenmue-2-is-Cancelled

http://archive.thegia.com/dc/shmu2/shmu2.html

A friend of mine and I were discussing this several months ago. I remember being heartbroken, having just seen banners on GameFAQs advertising it, and when he heard the news, he stomped over to his wall and tore down an advertisement he had hung that was marketing the US release for DC.

It was a rough time for SEGA fans. Dreamcast was on its way out, SEGA was going third party, and barely more than a month before release, it was announced we weren't getting Shenmue II for another year at least, and on a different system entirely. It was an all-time low for Dreamcast fans. Fun times, fun times!
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby ConanTheKing » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:13 am

Wait America didn't get Shenmue II on the Dreamcast? Eh!?

That does seem strange. What's worse is the Dreamcast was a dying console and while the original Xbox was a success it didn't sell nearly enough as the Playstation 2. If only SEGA released it on the Playstation 2, imagine that, it would have sold a lot more and generally the Playstation crowd are usually more receptive of these types of titles.

SEGA really messed up the chances this franchise had.
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby drunkensailor » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:19 am

joka wrote:
drunkensailor wrote:
joka wrote:
BlueMue wrote: Microsoft and Sega signed deals to have it exclusively on the Xbox in NA. And here in Europe the publishers haven't given up just yet. I applaud them for that.


Was it definitely due to the Microsoft deal? I thought that all came way after....

I thought it was more about Europe just being a stronger market for Sega at the time.

Does seem weird though looking back... I still remember going to buy Shenmue 2 on Dreamcast :D

not at all true

I didn't say it was to be fair just what I thought but care to elaborate?

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I never even heard of your point. this was all over the media back then that microsoft had bought shenmue 2 for north america
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Re: How was Shenmue II released on Dreamcast in Europe Anywa

Postby drunkensailor » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:20 am

ConanTheKing wrote: Wait America didn't get Shenmue II on the Dreamcast? Eh!?

That does seem strange. What's worse is the Dreamcast was a dying console and while the original Xbox was a success it didn't sell nearly enough as the Playstation 2. If only SEGA released it on the Playstation 2, imagine that, it would have sold a lot more and generally the Playstation crowd are usually more receptive of these types of titles.

SEGA really messed up the chances this franchise had.

the original xbox was not a success at all
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