SheepheadCG wrote: Himuro wrote:
When was the last time an HD remaster recieved a dedicated segment at E3? Skyrim definitive version? I can't think of any remaster ever receiving thet much of a platform or stage presence. It's usually just an announcement and bite sized trailer and that's it.
I didn't say anything about stage time, but if we were to see it on the stage it would be in 1 of 2 ways. Either following a section with a Shenmue 3 update, or just in the third party upcoming games trailer. Either way, I do think we will see it on the main stage at Sony.
I don't agree with what you said about them just announcing it with a youtube video. After E3 2015, Shenmue became a big deal thanks to the limelight that was shined on it. It made people who have not heard of the series curious about what it is and why it is so highly regarded. As I keep saying, Sega only made/will make remasters for the easy cash, and if they announce it on their youtube channel, it will get a response but it most likely won't reach those people who were curious back in 2015. Most people will have forgotten the name of the game lol.
In answer to your question, we have seen remakes on the main stage plenty of times. Crash, Infinite Warfare/Modern Warfare, Wind Waker, Skyrim, Day of the Tenticle, Grim Fandango, Last of Us, Dangaronpa, Uncharted. These come to mind but there are a shit ton more.
Okay. Thanks for the clarification on the remasters announced on the stage.
It's not that I don't agree E3 wouldn't help, because of course it would, I'm just not convinced that Sega would go that route. I think a lot of you place too much emphasis on E3 when E3 has kind of been slowly dying for a few years now. But it makes sense that you place E3 so highly because it was where Shenmue III was revealed. There are so many game conventions now from Pax to PSX that waiting for an E3 announcement is considered oldhat now. Hell, many publishers flat out have their own conventions now, from Blizzard to Bethesda further diluting the necessity for E3 even further. And while it's true those games you listed were announced on the stage, how many were announced at E3? Not that many I think. For the most part, remasters don't get much screen time on the stage. Companies simply announce it and show the logo half the time. I think you're over estimating the effect an E3 announcement would have. Where would they announce it? Sony's conference where it'd be lost in the shuffle? Or at Sega's conference that generally has less viewers?
Square Enix revealed FFXII Zodiac Age in a teaser trailer with no convention stage and it has 1.6 million views. There's plenty of ways to get exposure in today's times and an E3 reveal doesn't have to be the only way. Would an E3 reveal be helpful? Sure. But at the end of the day it's just a remaster and there's a billion of ways to get Shenmue HD's name out.
Also your premise makes kind of no sense. People have forgotten the name of Shenmue? Unlikely. The reason Shenmue III's reveal at E3 was so huge is because even if people aren't familiar with the games, they're familiar with the name. I simply refuse to believe that someone who watches E3 conferences live also doesn't read at least one game website or news source that would be very much make a post/video/article about Shenmue HD existing.
The contention I have with your conclusion isn't that E3 would be helpful for a remaster, because of course it would. It's that your contending that it's the best or only way to get the name to the masses when all Sega really needs to do is make a reveal trailer, put it on YouTube, and have some game site make an article about it, and youtubers make videos discussing it. There's so many ways to market now that waiting nearly half a year just to reveal it at E3 makes no sense.
If Shenmue III is at E3 this year, it'd be great if it were paired with an HD announcement for 1 and 2 but as Spag's said, it'd take a miracle for Ys net and Sega to have that kind of synergetic collaboration.
Finally, the main point you have made is that an E3 announcement is a "guaranteed success" when Day of the Tentacle Remastered has
only sold 100k copies on Steam. Comparitively, Sega released Valkyria Chronicles on Steam out of nowhere and it has sold almost a million copies.
Would an E3 announcement be nice? Sure.
Is it likely? Maybe, maybe not.
Is it necessary for Shenmue HD's success? No. Though I'd certainly prefer it.
Is it the "guaranteed success" that you think it is? No, absolutely not.