KidMarine wrote: Well, the series cost them a lot of money and there wasn't really any proof that there was a huge demand for the series outside of hardcore fans before the Kickstarter.
MiTT3NZ wrote: Because it's the kinda decision that can get a lot of people sacked.
Shenmue_Legend wrote:KidMarine wrote: Well, the series cost them a lot of money and there wasn't really any proof that there was a huge demand for the series outside of hardcore fans before the Kickstarter.
I know but that was "before" the highly successful Kickstarter. After Shenmue became the highest funded Kickstarter game ever, shouldn't that have gave them more than enough of a reason to help it out? Even the teaser trailer has got more than 700K views so all of this should have shown Sega that Shenmue III is a big thing.
Cyberman wrote:Shenmue_Legend wrote:KidMarine wrote: Well, the series cost them a lot of money and there wasn't really any proof that there was a huge demand for the series outside of hardcore fans before the Kickstarter.
I know but that was "before" the highly successful Kickstarter. After Shenmue became the highest funded Kickstarter game ever, shouldn't that have gave them more than enough of a reason to help it out? Even the teaser trailer has got more than 700K views so all of this should have shown Sega that Shenmue III is a big thing.
Actually it's over 800,000.
Shenmue_Legend wrote:I mean, they're worth way over a billion dollars so the amount required to get Shenmue III fully funded should basically be nothing compared to what they're worth, right?
Shenmue_Legend wrote:MiTT3NZ wrote: Because it's the kinda decision that can get a lot of people sacked.
And why is that? Does Sega go around firing any employee that's a fan of Shenmue and says something like "I can't take this shit anymore Sega, I'm getting the money and running away with it for Shenmue"?!
OL wrote: Shenmue is just a proven money sink for them. It technically made them next to nothing in profits with the first two games. Businesses typically run based on the numbers, and the numbers don't work out in Shenmue's favor. Even that 800,000 views is paltry compared to the views that more successful games tend to get.Shenmue_Legend wrote:I mean, they're worth way over a billion dollars so the amount required to get Shenmue III fully funded should basically be nothing compared to what they're worth, right?
That's not really how things work. That's like saying "Donald Trump is worth however many billions or hundreds of millions... why doesn't he just give me a million dollars? It's like nothing to him. He can afford it."
70 million has never been "basically nothing" to anyone. It doesn't matter how much Sega is worth, 70 million will always be a lot of money. And if they could put that toward more profitable ventures instead, then there's no way they're going to just throw it out there for a brand that previously didn't even break even.
The success of the Kickstarter likewise means nothing. It only proves that the people who put money into it are interested, not that the public as a whole is. Shenmue still isn't a huge name, no matter how well the Kickstarter did.
In another topic you also once said that 50 million would be nothing to Bill Gates, so we should get him to help fund the game. I get the sneaking suspicion you might be slightly naive about these things.
MiTT3NZ wrote: Not necessarily the case with Shenmue Online. It was a pre-existing game that SEGA granted a Shenmue reskin to. They'd invest money, but the return would've been worth it for them as China and South Korea were really getting into their MMOs at the time, and PSO was enjoying success in the East.
It was considered a wise investment, as the company had survived the Dreamcast era and the software-only approach was working. The online market in the East was ripe for the taking. They had sci-fi with PSO, and they wanted the fantasy genre too, with Shenmue being an optimal choice (remember that this deal had been worked out before Shenmue 2X was released)
I'm not sure if it was Japanese stubbornness or a stupid decision to try rebuilding it after the initial developer pulled out, but either way it didn't help Shenmue as a brand in SEGA's eyes. It would've been a noticeable enough loss n'all.
Either way though it was far from wasting money on a Shenmue-related thing and was motivated by identifying an emerging market that had a gap they could fill. That is business.
Shenmue_Legend wrote:Okay, well maybe they can set aside business for once and invest money purely for the fans and for Yu Suzuki.
Shenmue_Legend wrote: I mean, they're worth way over a billion dollars so the amount required to get Shenmue III fully funded should basically be nothing compared to what they're worth, right? I'm confused
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