Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby OL » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:17 pm

You always bring up the idea of a "filter" every time the subject of HD remastering comes up. There's a lot more to it than that. People have to go through lines of code and figure out how to make it all work under a totally different system. Its a lot more complicated than you seem to think. And the more visual content there is in a game, the more complex the process is to bring it to stronger consoles.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Bluecast » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:21 pm

Still my other point stands. Pick up and play games sell much better. Something like Shenmue with a unfinished story and you have to really commit to a game that is either love or hate. I'm willing to bet that is the biggest reason SEGA does not do it. As to what AG said about size. It's called Episode DLC. Games on XBL do it all the time even story ones like Walking Dead.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Yokosuka Martian » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:41 pm

I dont think a game like that should be put through episode dlc. It's got it's own chapters as it is. I don't think it needs to be divided even further
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Bluecast » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:48 pm

I only mentioned it because AG was concerned it might not happen because of it's size. To help the porblem they could break it up in episodes. 1 episode per disc.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Let's Get Sweaty » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:50 am

Yokosuka Martian wrote:what else do they have left? Hint hint, Starts with an S and ends with an E.

Ah, so YOU'RE the one who requested Seaman Portable!

Get 'im, fellas!

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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Peter » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:22 am

If Shenmue was released in shorter chapter forms, i would still buy em. Means more money for a potential Shenmue 3.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby ThyDarkAngel » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:35 am

Sega kicks a lot of ass these days, all things considered.

One of the few companies on the rise when the medium is shaking.

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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Yokosuka Martian » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:44 pm

Let's Get Sweaty wrote:
Yokosuka Martian wrote:what else do they have left? Hint hint, Starts with an S and ends with an E.

Ah, so YOU'RE the one who requested Seaman Portable!

Get 'im, fellas!


This made me laugh.


And btw, I thought Sega was in a rut these days financially
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Axm » Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:04 pm

Who Really Cares? wrote:Who in the hell will buy a story driven game if Sega says oh but we still might not finish it?

If you never saw and someone told you star wars a new hope and empire strikes back are amazing movies but return of the jedi wasnt coming out anytime soon wouldnt you still watch them?

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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Who Really Cares? » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:29 am

Knowing how Jedi turned out? Yes.

But imagine you are looking forward to Shenmue only to be told the pay off is being stuck in a cave for 11 years.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Bluecast » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:39 am

Star Wars made money. Shenmue didn't
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby MiTT3NZ » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:04 am

Let's have it right though, Shenmue failed coz the Dreamcast failed. What was it, 2 copies needed to be bought by every Dreamcast owner to turn a profit? Then they made silly decisions with Shenmue II and marketing both games.

We give Shenmue a lot of shit for not bein profitable or whatever, but when intentionally setting out to build a brand new franchise, it's silly for anyone to expect an immediate return. It's a long-term investment.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Bluecast » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:15 am

Shenmue failed because SEGA failed. 32X,SEGA CD & SEGA Saturn out SEGA bankrupt. SEGA barely escaped from from going out of business. They supported 8 consoles in several countries. Sammy saved SEGA from being SNK. Even if Shenmue sold decent SEGA was still in the red and going to have to cut funding anyway. Also the budget of Shenmue really hurt SEGA as well.SEGA from 32X just set the ball rolling they could not stop.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby Who Really Cares? » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:17 am

MiTT3NZ wrote: What was it, 2 copies needed to be bought by every Dreamcast owner to turn a profit?



Thought that turned out to be not true? Same with the projects supposed budget.
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Re: Sega sure seems to really be popping them out now

Postby MiTT3NZ » Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:23 am

It wasn't rhetorical.
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