Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revamp

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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:22 am

SOmeone should tweet cedric, that update was just bad publicity for the sake of bad publicity.

How can AJ fail at so many levels ????
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Spaghetti » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:23 am

As I said in the GAF thread for the Kickstarter, I think this was a dumb and short sighted decision made entirely out of being too wary of pissing off a larger than expected percentage of backers. It has entirely blown up in their face.

If the opposite had happened and KS rewards were now available to PayPal backers, at least there could be a statistic to point to in the poll results to easily justify the decision.

I will say this though; this is an Awesome Japan problem. Not a Yu Suzuki, YSnet, Shibuya Productions, or Shenmue 3 problem. It's nice to see here, on GAF, and on the Kickstarter page that AJ are being called out on this very stupid decision. Maybe they'll see sense and reverse it based on the outcry.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Yokosuka » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:24 am

shredingskin wrote: SOmeone should tweet cedric, that update was just bad publicity for the sake of bad publicity.

How can AJ fail at so many levels ????


I don't have the courage for this as he has nothing to do with AJ unfortunately.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:25 am

The update was just written bad

https://shenmue.link/order/

All the rewards are there.

It's just awesome japan being awesome.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby johnvivant » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:26 am

shredingskin wrote: Hey calm your tits.

Seems like the rewards are now included in the page, and the update was just a fuckup of AJ :D:D:D:D:D


I can't see the phone card dlc there.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:27 am

Fuck, didn't notice that.

Well, the chibi and that stuff isn't there also.

But most of the ingame content is, probably they just missed the calling card or something.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Reprise » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:34 am

The Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards only applies to rewards like the phone card, which were marketed as "Kickstarter Exclusive".

In their defence, do you know how much of a backlash some companies have faced when they've marketed something as "kickstarter exclusive" and then they turned around and offered it on Paypal or whatever? They want to avoid that...

Btw, why blame Awesome Japan? You really think they have that much power? This decision would have been made after a meeting/consultation between all the relevant parties involved in Shenmue 3. Don't be naive.

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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:36 am

The martial arts scrolls were also "KS exclusive" and now they're in there.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:45 am

And now the page is down :S
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby GYO6161 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:46 am

Oh boy.... when the media hears about this, they're gonna rip Shenmue 3 a new one.

''Shenmue III developers scam Paypal pledgers from giving their previously promised exclusive items''


I'm really starting to think this Shenmue III campaign ain't gonna end pretty and i doubt this will be the last of AJ's screw ups.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Spaghetti » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:46 am

Reprise wrote: The Kickstarter Exclusive Rewards only applies to rewards like the phone card, which were marketed as "Kickstarter Exclusive".

In their defence, do you know how much of a backlash some companies have faced when they've marketed something as "kickstarter exclusive" and then they turned around and offered it on Paypal or whatever? They want to avoid that...

Btw, why blame Awesome Japan? You really think they have that much power? This decision would have been made after a meeting/consultation between all the relevant parties involved in Shenmue 3. Don't be naive.

There were two polls to ask backers their opinions on the matter, both came back positive. Even if people did get mad about their exclusive backer rewards no longer being exclusive, there's still a statistical justification because of the poll results. Going in the opposite direction despite the polls is ridiculous.

Why blame Awesome Japan? Because as we've been told by people such as Cedric, they are the ones directly in charge of the PayPal and Kickstarter campaigns. Cedric has even gone as far to say he has no control over the PayPal campaign, and we know ultimately Yu Suzuki is focussed on development. So who does that leave? Awesome Japan.

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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Spaghetti » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:48 am

GYO6161 wrote: Oh boy.... when the media hears about this, they're gonna rip Shenmue 3 a new one.

''Shenmue III developers scam Paypal pledgers from giving them exclusive items''

Even if I have zero confidence in gaming press, that would stray into outright lying. Nobody got scammed, it's just Awesome Japan ignoring the democratic will of the backers in two polls because they are afraid of backlash from a higher than expected percentage of backers.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Yokosuka » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:51 am

shredingskin wrote: The martial arts scrolls were also "KS exclusive" and now they're in there.


They were since the Paypal beginning. Nothing has changed, really.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby shredingskin » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:51 am

lol I'm a hardcore idiot then.
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Re: Kickstarter Update 51: Poll Results & Shenmue.link revam

Postby Reprise » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:07 am

Spaghetti wrote:
GYO6161 wrote: Oh boy.... when the media hears about this, they're gonna rip Shenmue 3 a new one.

''Shenmue III developers scam Paypal pledgers from giving them exclusive items''

Even if I have zero confidence in gaming press, that would stray into outright lying. Nobody got scammed, it's just Awesome Japan ignoring the democratic will of the backers in two polls because they are afraid of backlash from a higher than expected percentage of backers.


Exactly. All that has happened is... nothing has changed.

I agree, it's pretty shitty. They should have at least stated before the poll that if "yes" doesn't get at least 'x'% of the poll, that nothing would change. Announcing that 'yes' won, but because 'no' still got a lot of votes they're not going to add any of the Kickstarter exclusives, is pretty bad.

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