Sailors? wrote:I've been meaning to ask you Neo Matrix but where you previously Twist. Twist05 and ofcourse NeoShredder?
Nope, I've always had this name, just didn't post anywhere anyone cared about. I have about the same number of posts as Yama the last time I looked (although I think this thread alone has taken me past his total again). I do remember the name Twist though, and possibly NeoShredder, was he the one who did a lot of graphic art for his sigs etc?
south carmain wrote:that is where you disregard completely my other point, yama wouldn't touch the site or demote ryudo before because of the backlash of a small amount of the community, he just didn't see it worthy of the stress, while enabling the vot this withdraws complete responsibility from him, and it allows for a more harmonious system between members and mods, members who PAY to keep this site running have a say instead of a select few
I complained directly to Yama and peter didn't pay attention when I voiced it vocally and called others trouble makers, in the end the vocal minority were winning because the majority didn't have any power to change things
I didn't disregard it, I just don't see it as necessary because...
Yama wrote:I have to admit, if I had listened to my gut on more than one occasion none of this would have happened. But the other side of me is happy it did, because it's allowing for a forced change that everyone agrees must take place. In ways, I don't think it could have happened any other way here at the Dojo, haha.
...that. That right there (and his post just now) tells me he's now steeled himself for any backlash for his actions rather than rely solely on the vocal people. I've gone through the exact same thing moderating forums and to be honest, you have to distance yourself in these situations as if you were a manager or the inmates will run the asylum. Plus, with all the talk now about people getting ignored, I'm confident he'd be taking that criticism very seriously.
You've mentioned the paying members again without seemingly reading what I said before... I'd be loathe to approve of a "paying members only" group, as that's just huge potential for elitism (95% of isms are bad, mmmk?). However, if Yama was really, and I mean REALLY stuck on a decision, he could PM those paying members and get their thoughts on things before coming to his final decision.
This suddenly appeared in my quote...
People who work pay taxes, yet get the same healthcare here as people who don't. When election times comes around do those people who pay the taxes get extra votes in what happens? No, and the same applies here in my opinion.south carmain wrote:and I wasn't saying only the paying members get to vote, i was saying this site is kept alive by contributions of members and it wouldn't exist without that, so the members of the site should have a voice as they are the lifeline of this website
everything you are saying is the system that was put in place before
-strict rules for moderators
happened, nothing changed
-pm a mod about your discontent
happened, nothing changed
-voicing your opinion and hope that action will be taken
happened nothing changed
All for the cause of keeping any drama private...
I don't know what system was in place, I just posted when I felt I could to enjoy it and didn't look at what was happening behind the scenes. I get enough of that elsewhere. So, you're really saying you don't have any confidence in any of the staff and administrators at all even after their words in the threads over the last few hours?south carmain wrote:you are defending a system that is already implemented and has proven it's lack of efficiency countless times since years now