danny wrote:Research consistently finds that people from ethnic or racial minority backgrounds tend to view police more negatively than those from nonminority backgrounds.Previous research has shown that Blacks are more likely than Whites to hold unfavorable opinions of criminal justice agencies in America, but the literature has rarely examined whether social class also affects these opinions.
Riku Rose wrote:Sadly it's a slow process but it's one that we have to go through for the ultimate end goal with any minority issue.
danny wrote:PILMAN wrote: I take a neutral standpoint, there are the racists, and then you have social justice warriors, and both are equally bad.
In the United States, there tends to be a obsession on what someone's background is, people are afraid that if they are not seen as different, they they will be viewed as one of the individuals of privilege, and so it is easier to proclaim a victim status. This is why you see so many individuals claiming to be Cherokee Indian or some other Native American ancestry or associate as one of the persecuted, this becomes problematic because these individuals expect others to feel shame or more sensitive that it is a civic duty and they tend to take the fun out of everything by reminding Americans and attempting to claim that we are just simply immigrants who stole the land and oppressed everyone as some form of guilt complex.
I actually kind of sympathize with the idea that non-Native Americans (mainly immigrants from the continents Europe - mostly colonialists, Africa - mostly slaves, Asia - mostly immigrants; For ease of writing, I will refer to them as "foreigners" in the following) leave America and give it back to the Natives.
(Think the same with Australia and the Natives there.)
Want to know Wude's take on that issue (as he claims to be a 100% Native American).
Of course, it is not convenient for all these foreigners in America to go back to Europe, Africa & Asia. Many are pretty assimilated to the "colionalist culture", namely "American English", "American culture" (I sound like a SJW/Marxist here, I know), or mixed race etc. However, if Israel claims that Palestine was actually theirs, and the Arabs "steal" it from them, then the handing back the American land to the Natives is logically consistent, because again, they demand Israel back from the Arabs (Palestinians) too.
(As far as I am concerned with the topic: the Jews were driven out by their home lands from the Romans and are now distributed across several foreign countries - the diaspora).
But then, there is the "out of Africa" theory (OAA). Now the question which arises is the following: when all humans originated from one place, then how do we determine the original ownership of land? Are the original owners those who came first and settled there? What about the case, if the original settlers move to another land centuries later for example? Thus the ownership vanishes then? Those who lived for centuries in a place and moved away centuries later could do the same like the Jews, namely, say that actually the land was theirs.
Is there even something like an universal ownership right (like "we came first, it's now ours")?On the other hand, racism is becoming an issue as well, it's taken a different shape and form that has infiltrated every aspect of society, the police, government, judges, politicians, doctors, military, etc. most are keeping under the radar and acting as lone wolves and they are fueled purely by their fundamentalist ideology and simply are unwilling to listen to a intellectual rational discussion, this applies to all colors that they simply want to segregate or oppress anyone who doesn't share their same genetics.
Just as a note or supplement: racism is not only a European thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_supremacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_issues_in_JapanMyself, my wife is Colombian, she is half Amerindian and Spanish, and I am half German via my mother and half Jewish from my father who is of Levantine descent. We have encountered the issue from all sides because society hasn't yet figured if we are white or mixed or some other group, on one side, I represent the elite and the top and end up getting thrown in as part of the problem before my mouth has ever opened, on the other hand, because I don't tend to look like the typical American nor does my wife, sometimes we get thrown in as part of the minority since I tend to have more of a Italian or Greek look and she has a obvious mestiza look, this attracts unpleasant comments sometimes towards my wife and I. We have heard everything from "go back to where you came from" to "speak English!!!" Or "you are stealing our jobs!"
Sounds like they mixed you guys up with "Mexicans".In colombia, race was never an issue at all, you are just Colombian, it exists to a entree, mainly in the economic sector however it's not as big of a deal as it is in the United States, South America is not as politically correct as the U.S. Which pushes a extremist agenda on both sides.
PC-ness is just another extreme with Orwellian tendencies. You are not the only one:Richard Dawkins wrote:As a pejorative, "Politically Correct" has lost its bite. It's now a cliché. What we have is an Orwellian (but unofficial) "Thought Police".
https://twitter.com/richarddawkins/stat ... 7172853760Honestly I dislike both racism from all sides and safety net equality where one group is given more privileges than another. Being stuck in the middle ticking off both sides is another story altogether.
Yay, equality (same opportunities for all)!Wude-Tang Clan wrote: You know, the more I learn of this 'racism', the less I like it. It's almost as if there's no redeeming qualities to being a racist at all.
Crackers.
Cultural appropriation right there!
danny wrote:Show me evidence (studies, findings) that there is systematic oppression against blacks all across America, and I change my opinion. I am open to discussion.
Mr357 wrote: It absolutely makes my blood boil when people claim that whites have it easy. How can that be true when multiple times in my life I've been turned down by colleges and employers because I'm a Caucasian male? How am I not the real victim of racism when I've seen first-hand others achieve my aspirations even though they were less qualified, simply because they're a "minority."
That being said, it's not something I cling to or bring up by my own initiative. Because I've put in the effort to make it so, I still have a great life and the same rights as any other American. Until that changes I'll be pretty content.
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